The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

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Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
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WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
Can the first halfs of each pairing just get in? Joy Division/Small Faces is a nomination I'd vote for.
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WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
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The more I think about the pairing move the funnier it is. What other asinine pairings would the Rock Hall put together? Uncle Tupelo/Wilco stands out.

Addendum: Rage Against The Machine/Audioslave. That'd be a good brain melting one.

Addendum II: Actually, it'd be even funnier if they did it the other way around. Nominate Van Halen but be clear it's only Diamond Dave era Van that's being inducted.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:40pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
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WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:40pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:40pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
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Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:40pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:22pm
Joy Division/New Order have been nominated for the Rock Hall of Fame. Interesting that they're lumping them together. Same thing happened with The Small Faces / Faces, which is a similar story. One band loses a lead singer, but they continue on with a new member or two.
I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
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Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 4:40pm


I hate that institution so much.

The only thing worthwhile is whether Peter Hook would show up and how much gritted teeth grinning would be involved by the others.
Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
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Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm


Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Make Ireland Win Eurovision is next on his bucket list.
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Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm
WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:31pm


Also, who will the hall choose to induct? Hooky, Sumner, Curtis, Morris, and Gilbert for sure. Does Phil Cunningham get included? He played on 2 albums and has been a member since 2001.

I agree that the institution is a joke. That said, if we're talking about bands that have been a big influence on the genre, Joy Division/New Order would belong in such an institution.
It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Not even John backing Trump could make America great again. 🤣
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Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:09pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 5:56pm


It's because they are influential within a particular genre that they don't belong in there. That's the problem. Punk and post-punk and underground genres get sterilized by inclusion in something like that. The last good thing Lydon did was tell the RRHoF to go fuck itself.
Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Not even John backing Trump could make America great again. 🤣
Agreed. You can't be great again when you never stopped being great in the first place. :cool:
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Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:09pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:01pm


Was that before or after his latter day masterpiece, Psycho's Path?
After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Not even John backing Trump could make America great again. 🤣
Agreed. You can't be great again when you never stopped being great in the first place. :cool:
Hey! it's Great Britain not Great America. Though you did have the Great depression so you win that one. Though the way our current government is out performing itself we're heading there. 😕
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Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:14pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:09pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:05pm


After. When he wrote to the RRHoF calling them a piss stain.
Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Not even John backing Trump could make America great again. 🤣
Agreed. You can't be great again when you never stopped being great in the first place. :cool:
Hey! it's Great Britain not Great America. Though you did have the Great depression so you win that one. Though the way our current government is out performing itself we're heading there. 😕
I was going to mention a nearby theme park, but this image came up for it:
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matedog wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:21pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:14pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:09pm
Flex wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 6:07pm


Okay, then I agree it's the last good thing Lydon did. Besides help Make America Great Again, of course.
Not even John backing Trump could make America great again. 🤣
Agreed. You can't be great again when you never stopped being great in the first place. :cool:
Hey! it's Great Britain not Great America. Though you did have the Great depression so you win that one. Though the way our current government is out performing itself we're heading there. 😕
I was going to mention a nearby theme park, but this image came up for it:
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Let's make America a theme park again.
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