The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

[matedog]

And where is Lovecats, their most famous song (in the UK anyway)?

Friday I'm in Love and Lullaby both charted higher.

Charted higher yes, but Lovecats was on the chart for twice as long as both. I'd bet my house it was their best selling single in the UK, and the one that is remembered most by the public.

Caterpillar far and away my favourite Cure tune.

Lots of 101Hoylterton today.

[Dr. Medulla]

Speaking of the Cure performance, the rip just came up on Dime a Dozen. A mere 28GB to download. Um, okay then.

[Heston]

I think the Clash got it about right on the CR tour. 6 songs from CR and the rest a career spanning highlights set. Their 1981 sets were interesting for the hardcore fan but could be a tad self-indulgent.

Given that four of the songs they'd play from CR were singles, that leans to a virtual greatest hits kind of show. I'm more partial to Kory's position and the way Wire used to do things—performance was mostly for testing out new material or the recently released. Old stuff is old stuff, and unless approached in a new way, what's the point? I'm not a fan of replication of what's already been done. There should be something distinct going on.

I don't get that at all.

If it sounds like it does on the live albums or the last ten tours or, worse, the studio album, it's a yawn for me.

Not defending the CR material but Joe would often make stuff more exciting by adding ad-libs etc.

Oh yeah, I'm not wanting identical renditions. But if you go to see a band you don't want their back catalogue reimagined into a jazz odyssey or something. All I'm saying is bands like (for example) SLF and the Stranglers have a good model. Whack out the classics, throw in a few curveballs, and play 5 or 6 songs from your last record. Everyone's a winner.

[Dr. Medulla]

Oh yeah, I'm not wanting identical renditions. But if you go to see a band you don't want their back catalogue reimagined into a jazz odyssey* or something. All I'm saying is bands like (for example) SLF and the Stranglers have a good model. Whack out the classics, throw in a few curveballs, and play 5 or 6 songs from your last record. Everyone's a winner.

* eumaas excepted.

[Kory]

So, he's giving me the thumbs me to steal your record when it comes out?

But what a band plays is as much a consumer risk as when you buy their new album. Maybe you'll like it, maybe you won't. Maybe it'll have songs you dig, maybe not. Your money buys you an opportunity to hear something, not a guarantee that you'll approve of what you hear.

Why can't you be my guitarist instead of this arrogant, entitled Greatest Hits fiend

What I offer in perspective I more than give back in musical ability.

How do you feel about management?

I'd be more of a McLaren/Bernie intellectual co-conspirator rather than a nuts and bolts accomplish stuff guy.

That's fine, we can hire somebody for that crap.

[Kory]

Oh yeah, I'm not wanting identical renditions. But if you go to see a band you don't want their back catalogue reimagined into a jazz odyssey* or something. All I'm saying is bands like (for example) SLF and the Stranglers have a good model. Whack out the classics, throw in a few curveballs, and play 5 or 6 songs from your last record. Everyone's a winner.

* eumaas excepted.

I'd also appreciate this.

[Dr. Medulla]

Why can't you be my guitarist instead of this arrogant, entitled Greatest Hits fiend

What I offer in perspective I more than give back in musical ability.

How do you feel about management?

I'd be more of a McLaren/Bernie intellectual co-conspirator rather than a nuts and bolts accomplish stuff guy.

That's fine, we can hire somebody for that crap.

Okay, go write some classic hit songs and get back to me.

[tepista]

I'll just sit here and wait for someone to tell me this has already been posted eleven times.

https://www.post-punk.com/butcher-billy ... z5HMKi5McY

[Dr. Medulla]

I'll just sit here and wait for someone to tell me this has already been posted eleven times.

https://www.post-punk.com/butcher-billy ... z5HMKi5McY

Ton o' fun there. I have a vague recollection of someone else doing something similar to that—early 80s new wave as comics?

Edit: Duh, same guy did what I'm thinking of: https://www.behance.net/gallery/8688795 ... cher-Billy

[Wolter]

I'll just sit here and wait for someone to tell me this has already been posted eleven times.

https://www.post-punk.com/butcher-billy ... z5HMKi5McY

Ok, that was fun.

[tepista]

I'll just sit here and wait for someone to tell me this has already been posted eleven times.

https://www.post-punk.com/butcher-billy ... z5HMKi5McY

Ton o' fun there. I have a vague recollection of someone else doing something similar to that—early 80s new wave as comics?

Edit: Duh, same guy did what I'm thinking of: https://www.behance.net/gallery/8688795 ... cher-Billy

oooooooh yeah

[Flex]

Generally, I prefer sets that are heavy on new and/or underappreciated material - or drastic reworkings of classic songs - with a smattering of the hits to punctuate things. That's assuming that the band is still a basically functioning entity, and not purely a golden moldies act (in which case, do what you gotta do to get paid). Definitely prefer it when a band reworks or subverts expectations in some way.

If I just wanted to hear a band's greatest hits, I'd play their greatest hits cd and save 60-120 bucks. And there are special occasions (such as the beach boys 50th, when they play 50+ hit singles along with some new stuff) where a greatest hits set makes sense. Anniversaries, festivals and special reunions and such.

Depends on the act. If it's one I know super well, I'm more inclined to want to hear something new/different. I don't want to hear Bruce play Thunder Road, but I'd nut if he dropped NYC Serenade on me. That being said, if his new album sucks (which they sometimes do), I'm less inclined to want to hear Working on a Dream or Good Eye if it's 2009 vs. Badlands.

If I go see U2, I want to hear some hits. I don't give a shit about a Boy deep cut or whatever is on their new album.

I'd rather hear u2 do a boy deep cut than any single post-zooropa hit.

[Wolter]

Generally, I prefer sets that are heavy on new and/or underappreciated material - or drastic reworkings of classic songs - with a smattering of the hits to punctuate things. That's assuming that the band is still a basically functioning entity, and not purely a golden moldies act (in which case, do what you gotta do to get paid). Definitely prefer it when a band reworks or subverts expectations in some way.

If I just wanted to hear a band's greatest hits, I'd play their greatest hits cd and save 60-120 bucks. And there are special occasions (such as the beach boys 50th, when they play 50+ hit singles along with some new stuff) where a greatest hits set makes sense. Anniversaries, festivals and special reunions and such.

Depends on the act. If it's one I know super well, I'm more inclined to want to hear something new/different. I don't want to hear Bruce play Thunder Road, but I'd nut if he dropped NYC Serenade on me. That being said, if his new album sucks (which they sometimes do), I'm less inclined to want to hear Working on a Dream or Good Eye if it's 2009 vs. Badlands.

If I go see U2, I want to hear some hits. I don't give a shit about a Boy deep cut or whatever is on their new album.

I'd rather hear u2 do a boy deep cut than any single post-zooropa hit.

I mean, as far as I can tell, U2 broke up in 1986 after a series of diminishing returns after Boy, never to record again. All of their songs are by definition deep cuts these days.

[Marky Dread]

Given that four of the songs they'd play from CR were singles, that leans to a virtual greatest hits kind of show. I'm more partial to Kory's position and the way Wire used to do things—performance was mostly for testing out new material or the recently released. Old stuff is old stuff, and unless approached in a new way, what's the point? I'm not a fan of replication of what's already been done. There should be something distinct going on.

I don't get that at all.

If it sounds like it does on the live albums or the last ten tours or, worse, the studio album, it's a yawn for me.

Not defending the CR material but Joe would often make stuff more exciting by adding ad-libs etc.

Oh yeah, I'm not wanting identical renditions. But if you go to see a band you don't want their back catalogue reimagined into a jazz odyssey or something. All I'm saying is bands like (for example) SLF and the Stranglers have a good model. Whack out the classics, throw in a few curveballs, and play 5 or 6 songs from your last record. Everyone's a winner.

Yep I'm down with this. Although a jazz odyssey of Wasted Life/Law and Order/White Noise might be interesting.

[Flex]

LOL:

We Ranked Every Grateful Dead Album and They All Came in Last

https://thehardtimes.net/blog/we-ranked ... e-in-last/