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Flex wrote:
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LOL:
We Ranked Every Grateful Dead Album and They All Came in Last
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Flex wrote:
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LOL:
We Ranked Every Grateful Dead Album and They All Came in Last
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/we-ranked ... e-in-last/
Love it!!!!

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I'm going to sound like an old man yelling at cloud here, but humor me:

VH, jr. just turned 10, and I was thinking about this in terms of how much music evolved during the first 10 years of my life compared to his first 10 years. From 1971-1981, you had the advent of glam, punk, post punk, electronic music, new wave, disco, hip hop, etc. in addition to the mainstream established stuff. I can't think of anything musically revolutionary between 2009 and now. Is it because it's all been done? Is it because of technology? Or where the 70's just the high mark in modern music?
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JennyB wrote:
05 Jul 2019, 11:03am
I'm going to sound like an old man yelling at cloud here, but humor me:

VH, jr. just turned 10, and I was thinking about this in terms of how much music evolved during the first 10 years of my life compared to his first 10 years. From 1971-1981, you had the advent of glam, punk, post punk, electronic music, new wave, disco, hip hop, etc. in addition to the mainstream established stuff. I can't think of anything musically revolutionary between 2009 and now. Is it because it's all been done? Is it because of technology? Or where the 70's just the high mark in modern music?
It's always easier to be a pioneer in a new genre, and rock was still young enough in the 70s. Since then, it's a saturation of ideas and participants, plus everything is so fragmented now that it's next-to-impossible to be aware of stuff that is relatively distinct. There really isn't a narrative anymore.
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JennyB wrote:
05 Jul 2019, 11:03am
I'm going to sound like an old man yelling at cloud here, but humor me:

VH, jr. just turned 10, and I was thinking about this in terms of how much music evolved during the first 10 years of my life compared to his first 10 years. From 1971-1981, you had the advent of glam, punk, post punk, electronic music, new wave, disco, hip hop, etc. in addition to the mainstream established stuff. I can't think of anything musically revolutionary between 2009 and now. Is it because it's all been done? Is it because of technology? Or where the 70's just the high mark in modern music?
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Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
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My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Still an American band.
https://pitchfork.com/news/arcade-fires ... n-citizen/
Still wrong.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 8:50am
Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
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My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
See if you can find out all the bands it covers. If The Scrotum Poles aren't mentioned then it's a limp excuse for what it should be.

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dave202 wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 12:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 8:50am
Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
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My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
See if you can find out all the bands it covers. If The Scrotum Poles aren't mentioned then it's a limp excuse for what it should be.
I haven't found a preview for it, only some loose reviews. I suspect I'll just get the Kindle version.

edit: Bought it. They're in there.
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A suggestion: The best Joy Division song they never wrote or recorded.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 8:50am
Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
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My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
No not read it. Books on punk mostly annoy me as they all seem to miss the point of the individual and how it was different for each area/person. Different places that produced fun bands that didn't come from New York/London. Sure most of the well known bands are great but to some it (punk) meant going to your local youth club watching your mates band that had zero chance of success.

Alex Ogg is a decent writer who has written for Record Collector and various sleeve notes. But the cover/title of that book is enough to put me off. It looks like one of those cheap punk compilations that has everything from Sex Pistols to Culture Club.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 4:16am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 8:50am
Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
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My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
No not read it. Books on punk mostly annoy me as they all seem to miss the point of the individual and how it was different for each area/person. Different places that produced fun bands that didn't come from New York/London. Sure most of the well known bands are great but to some it (punk) meant going to your local youth club watching your mates band that had zero chance of success.

Alex Ogg is a decent writer who has written for Record Collector and various sleeve notes. But the cover/title of that book is enough to put me off. It looks like one of those cheap punk compilations that has everything from Sex Pistols to Culture Club.
This one might indeed interest you. It's more of an encyclopedia of early English punk, usual suspects and the more obscure. Not a history in the usual sense, but a reference text.

(No Culture Club, alas.)
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 6:17am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 4:16am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 8:50am
Say now, has anyone here read this (Marky, perhaps)?
Image

My understanding is that he investigates well beyond the same old, same old London and Manchester stuff. But the book is rather pricey now, so I'm reluctant to leap. (Mind you, a Kindle copy is only $10 so I might just snag that.)
No not read it. Books on punk mostly annoy me as they all seem to miss the point of the individual and how it was different for each area/person. Different places that produced fun bands that didn't come from New York/London. Sure most of the well known bands are great but to some it (punk) meant going to your local youth club watching your mates band that had zero chance of success.

Alex Ogg is a decent writer who has written for Record Collector and various sleeve notes. But the cover/title of that book is enough to put me off. It looks like one of those cheap punk compilations that has everything from Sex Pistols to Culture Club.
This one might indeed interest you. It's more of an encyclopedia of early English punk, usual suspects and the more obscure. Not a history in the usual sense, but a reference text.

(No Culture Club, alas.)
I've plenty of books on punk that form a reference. The subject for me at least has been well and truly covered over the years.
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I've been here so many times, nice to see the bass player get his dues...

There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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