Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Heston » 21 Nov 2011, 4:27pm

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laxman wrote:And the Vanilla Tapes version of Remote Control.
I think we can all agree that version would be totally definitive if there was a more proper recording. Blows the original out of the water.
I don't get the fuss about the Vanilla version of Remote Control. It just sounds like a lazy jam with fucked up lyrics and solos.
I think it is just hearing a 'new' version gives it a novelty effect when the old version is so ingrained in you plus the sound is refreshing.
That's all it can be. The original version is brilliant.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Silent Majority » 21 Nov 2011, 4:44pm

I think the Vanilla Tapes is a good listen, with better drumming, I much prefer the s/t Remote Control. I love that song.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Heston » 21 Nov 2011, 4:55pm

Silent Majority wrote:I think the Vanilla Tapes is a good listen, with better drumming, I much prefer the s/t Remote Control. I love that song.
That's the thing, even the drumming doesn't strike me as being particularly better. I think Terry does a pretty good job on the original.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Dr. Medulla » 21 Nov 2011, 5:33pm

Heston wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:I think the Vanilla Tapes is a good listen, with better drumming, I much prefer the s/t Remote Control. I love that song.
That's the thing, even the drumming doesn't strike me as being particularly better. I think Terry does a pretty good job on the original.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Silent Majority » 21 Nov 2011, 5:38pm

I must pull out the Leicester/Cardiff '77 boot - my favourite show - soon, because the whole first album sounds amazing. I can't remember if they played RC off the top of my head, but I bet it's near definitive.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Heston » 21 Nov 2011, 5:44pm

Silent Majority wrote:I must pull out the Leicester/Cardiff '77 boot - my favourite show - soon, because the whole first album sounds amazing. I can't remember if they played RC off the top of my head, but I bet it's near definitive.
They do, and it's great.
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Post by matedog » 21 Nov 2011, 5:47pm

Heston wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:I must pull out the Leicester/Cardiff '77 boot - my favourite show - soon, because the whole first album sounds amazing. I can't remember if they played RC off the top of my head, but I bet it's near definitive.
They do, and it's great.
The only thing I don't like about that boot and something prevents it from being upper echelon is that it doesn't have White Riot, Janie Jones, or Career Ops.
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Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Nov 2011, 10:06pm

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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Nov 2011, 10:13pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
Heston wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:I think the Vanilla Tapes is a good listen, with better drumming, I much prefer the s/t Remote Control. I love that song.
That's the thing, even the drumming doesn't strike me as being particularly better. I think Terry does a pretty good job on the original.
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The original Remote Control is my favorite studio version. And I think the only song from the Vanilla Tapes sessions that beats the official version is Lover's Rock.

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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by dave202 » 22 Nov 2011, 9:57am

I don't understand Kaleb's comment of how he wonders what 'Remote Control' would have been like if it was on GEER. It was on the first album, and put out as a single as well. If that wasn't 'value for money' then doing a second version on the second album would have been even less so.

I don't see that the Vanilla version adds anything, it just shows they were confident running through the song again. No more, no less.

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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Silent Majority » 22 Nov 2011, 10:01am

dave202 wrote:I don't understand Kaleb's comment of how he wonders what 'Remote Control' would have been like if it was on GEER. It was on the first album, and put out as a single as well. If that wasn't 'value for money' then doing a second version on the second album would have been even less so.
Being both an American and a lunatic*, Kaleb prefers the sound of GEER to S/t, and would rather have Remote Control sound like the later album.



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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Marky Dread » 22 Nov 2011, 10:53am

Silent Majority wrote:
dave202 wrote:I don't understand Kaleb's comment of how he wonders what 'Remote Control' would have been like if it was on GEER. It was on the first album, and put out as a single as well. If that wasn't 'value for money' then doing a second version on the second album would have been even less so.
Being both an American and a lunatic*, Kaleb prefers the sound of GEER to S/t, and would rather have Remote Control sound like the later album.



*a tautology.
The Vanilla version does have a heavier feel to it, my personal taste for a Clash sound would be somewhere between ST and GEER. That said I think the single is brilliant but I reckon it's a shame the record company decided to dictate as it may have had a few live outings.

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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Heston » 09 Dec 2011, 9:52pm

The Peel session version of Gangsters by the Specials is now definitive for me.

The demo of Making Plans For Nigel is better than the released version too.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Dirty Harry » 09 Dec 2011, 10:14pm

Heston wrote:The Peel session version of Gangsters by the Specials is now definitive for me.

The demo of Making Plans For Nigel is better than the released version too.
Agree The Specials Peel Sessions is quality stuff , Saying that just about every band I love seem to do sessions for John Peel that ended up being better than their recorded versions.
The Slits and The Fall being an example.
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Re: Alternate versions of songs better than popular versions?

Post by Marky Dread » 10 Dec 2011, 11:13pm

Dirty Harry wrote:
Heston wrote:The Peel session version of Gangsters by the Specials is now definitive for me.

The demo of Making Plans For Nigel is better than the released version too.
Agree The Specials Peel Sessions is quality stuff , Saying that just about every band I love seem to do sessions for John Peel that ended up being better than their recorded versions.
The Slits and The Fall being an example.
The Clash Peel session was rubbish.
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