The Black Flag Thread
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What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?
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There are two.Billy Joel wrote:What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?
First Four Years collects singles and eps.
Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.
Both are essential, though.
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I fully support Beej championing the Chavo era as Flag at its most authentic-ist. That would be awesome.Wolter wrote:There are two.Billy Joel wrote:What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?
First Four Years collects singles and eps.
Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.
Both are essential, though.
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I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I actually had a friend in college of did that for that reason. I found it hilarious.Flex wrote:I fully support Beej championing the Chavo era as Flag at its most authentic-ist. That would be awesome.Wolter wrote:There are two.Billy Joel wrote:What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?
First Four Years collects singles and eps.
Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.
Both are essential, though.
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"But the gorilla thinks otherwise!"
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Please let it be from Family Man.matedog wrote:I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
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The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.Wolter wrote:Please let it be from Family Man.matedog wrote:I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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You took a Hoyish thing and made it Hoyishier. I'm proud.matedog wrote:The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.Wolter wrote:Please let it be from Family Man.matedog wrote:I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
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Ha!Wolter wrote:You took a Hoyish thing and made it Hoyishier. I'm proud.matedog wrote:The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.Wolter wrote:Please let it be from Family Man.matedog wrote:I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
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Well, they were wrong.IkarisOne wrote:Everyone thought the record was awful
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I've got the Damaged CD. It's really cool stuff, I should download some more.matedog wrote:I think I have one BF song on my ipod.
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eumaas wrote:Well, they were wrong.IkarisOne wrote:Everyone thought the record was awful
Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.
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Shitty sound and SST go hand in hand, unfortunately.IkarisOne wrote:eumaas wrote:Well, they were wrong.IkarisOne wrote:Everyone thought the record was awful
Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.
All the pre-Hank vocalists were great punk/hardcore vocalists, but Henry commited to the Ginn lyrics in ways that Dez just didn't. Henry never held anything back. Reminds me of Jacques Brel in that regard.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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Interesting. The only problem was that Black Flag vanished for what was essentially an eternity after Damaged and the scene just carried on without them. I'd say Minor Threat took their place. And when BF came back they were essentially the New Stooges at a time when Boston Hardcore was getting extremely reductionist and puritanical. It's funny- I remember My War came out the same day the tickets for Clash II @ Providence went onsale. Strangely enough, I remember the punks at Newbury Comics that day being a lot more excited about the Clash. Go figure.eumaas wrote:Shitty sound and SST go hand in hand, unfortunately.IkarisOne wrote:eumaas wrote:Well, they were wrong.IkarisOne wrote:Everyone thought the record was awful
Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.
All the pre-Hank vocalists were great punk/hardcore vocalists, but Henry commited to the Ginn lyrics in ways that Dez just didn't. Henry never held anything back. Reminds me of Jacques Brel in that regard.
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What do you think of the '82 Demos? To me that's some of the greatest punk ever committed to tape, it's a shame it has never been officially released.IkarisOne wrote:Interesting. The only problem was that Black Flag vanished for what was essentially an eternity after Damaged and the scene just carried on without them. I'd say Minor Threat took their place. And when BF came back they were essentially the New Stooges at a time when Boston Hardcore was getting extremely reductionist and puritanical. It's funny- I remember My War came out the same day the tickets for Clash II @ Providence went onsale. Strangely enough, I remember the punks at Newbury Comics that day being a lot more excited about the Clash. Go figure.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!