Hey, remember Rancid?

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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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matedog wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 8:26pm
I listened to a song off of one of their recent albums and they are still singing about punks in the East bay like it’s 1988. The music is well done and all, but just so static.
When you become multi millionaires you get to inoculate yourself from the world around you and how it changes.
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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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Kory wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 3:05pm
matedog wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 9:03am
Marky Dread wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 6:01am
Mark^Bastard wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 1:29am
Their new album is really growing on me. It's under 30 minutes and fast comfy punk
The problem with Rancid is they are too comfortable.
I haven’t really listened to anything after 2000 because they just haven’t done anything interesting or different.
Life Won't Wait is their peak for me (even if it's overlong by maybe five or so songs). They seem capable of doing different stuff. I wish they would.
They get all of their creativity out on side projects now.

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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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Heston wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 7:33pm
Kory wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 3:05pm
matedog wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 9:03am
Marky Dread wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 6:01am
Mark^Bastard wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 1:29am
Their new album is really growing on me. It's under 30 minutes and fast comfy punk
The problem with Rancid is they are too comfortable.
I haven’t really listened to anything after 2000 because they just haven’t done anything interesting or different.
Life Won't Wait is their peak for me (even if it's overlong by maybe five or so songs). They seem capable of doing different stuff. I wish they would.
The best of Wolves and Life Won't Wait would be one of the greatest albums ever. Both albums suffer from uneccessary filler.
I don't think anyone would agree on which songs constitute filler though.

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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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I've changed my tune on this from previous views, but I actually don't really think they had filler on any of their albums until after 2000 came out. Wolves/Life/2000 is such a killer trifecta. Gimme all of it.
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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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Pretty interesting to notice how rancid are scrutinized/criticized in quite the same way the Clash/Joe have been: filler, millionaire, xerox Clash etc, completely setting aside (if not canceling) 1) the sheer integrity of Tim & co. (instead of a comfort ska/pop punk autopilot, they issued now an hardcore punk record) 2) the astonishing average level of their outcome along the years 3) the band musical palette (check their side project) 4) the blasting, second to none, live acts (seen them last time one week ago, thermonuclear blast as usual) 5) the efforts in order to support other groups (interrupters, to name one). Last but not least, who signed Joe for his 1999 come back?

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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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Flex wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 10:02pm
I've changed my tune on this from previous views, but I actually don't really think they had filler on any of their albums until after 2000 came out. Wolves/Life/2000 is such a killer trifecta. Gimme all of it.
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johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 4:37am
Pretty interesting to notice how rancid are scrutinized/criticized in quite the same way the Clash/Joe have been: filler, millionaire, xerox Clash etc, completely setting aside (if not canceling) 1) the sheer integrity of Tim & co. (instead of a comfort ska/pop punk autopilot, they issued now an hardcore punk record) 2) the astonishing average level of their outcome along the years 3) the band musical palette (check their side project) 4) the blasting, second to none, live acts (seen them last time one week ago, thermonuclear blast as usual) 5) the efforts in order to support other groups (interrupters, to name one). Last but not least, who signed Joe for his 1999 come back?
The Clash have been nothing but scrutinised here over the years. However The Clash unlike Rancid were not afraid of change and tried their hand at loads of different styles. No Clash album sounds like it's previous.

Rancid have loads of fans here and many enjoy their music. The criticism of them churning out the same stuff is fair I think. No one is complaining they think Rancid are not making decent music just wishing they would take more risks musically.

Their support of other bands is commendable. Joe being on Hellcat was cool but Joe could've signed to anyone really but it was great he found mutual respect.
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I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...

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johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:16am
I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...
Some press here gave The Clash a hard time but they had their fair share of supporters. People forget that the press were often harder here in the UK because they actually knew the band. Burchill, Parsons, Bushell, Kent had all championed the band at some point.

But the whole thing was the band were not afraid of change even knowing the so called music scribes would tear them apart in reviews. But none of this mattered really as the fans always knew they were a great live band.
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Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:57am
johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:16am
I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...
Some press here gave The Clash a hard time but they had their fair share of supporters. People forget that the press were often harder here in the UK because they actually knew the band. Burchill, Parsons, Bushell, Kent had all championed the band at some point.

But the whole thing was the band were not afraid of change even knowing the so called music scribes would tear them apart in reviews. But none of this mattered really as the fans always knew they were a great live band.
Kent's about the only one of those who hasn't made a complete arse of himself since, actually.
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Silent Majority wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 6:07am
Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:57am
johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:16am
I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...
Some press here gave The Clash a hard time but they had their fair share of supporters. People forget that the press were often harder here in the UK because they actually knew the band. Burchill, Parsons, Bushell, Kent had all championed the band at some point.

But the whole thing was the band were not afraid of change even knowing the so called music scribes would tear them apart in reviews. But none of this mattered really as the fans always knew they were a great live band.
Kent's about the only one of those who hasn't made a complete arse of himself since, actually.
He was an arse in the first place. Hitting Chrissie Hynde with a belt buckle was some low shit. I would've punched his lights out. The dark stuff indeed.
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Re: Hey, remember Rancid?

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Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 6:34am
Silent Majority wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 6:07am
Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:57am
johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:16am
I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...
Some press here gave The Clash a hard time but they had their fair share of supporters. People forget that the press were often harder here in the UK because they actually knew the band. Burchill, Parsons, Bushell, Kent had all championed the band at some point.

But the whole thing was the band were not afraid of change even knowing the so called music scribes would tear them apart in reviews. But none of this mattered really as the fans always knew they were a great live band.
Kent's about the only one of those who hasn't made a complete arse of himself since, actually.
He was an arse in the first place. Hitting Chrissie Hynde with a belt buckle was some low shit. I would've punched his lights out. The dark stuff indeed.
Wasn't aware of that. Pack of pricks, who became worse once they became the establishment than the establishment they opposed as hip young gunsligners.
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Silent Majority wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 7:35am
Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 6:34am
Silent Majority wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 6:07am
Marky Dread wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:57am
johnny2bad wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 5:16am
I wasn't absolutely referring to the forum but more generally to music press, even though, luckily for rancid, the slaughter put in place by UK scribbles towards clash and joe is unreachable...
Some press here gave The Clash a hard time but they had their fair share of supporters. People forget that the press were often harder here in the UK because they actually knew the band. Burchill, Parsons, Bushell, Kent had all championed the band at some point.

But the whole thing was the band were not afraid of change even knowing the so called music scribes would tear them apart in reviews. But none of this mattered really as the fans always knew they were a great live band.
Kent's about the only one of those who hasn't made a complete arse of himself since, actually.
He was an arse in the first place. Hitting Chrissie Hynde with a belt buckle was some low shit. I would've punched his lights out. The dark stuff indeed.
Wasn't aware of that. Pack of pricks, who became worse once they became the establishment than the establishment they opposed as hip young gunsligners.
Yep nailed it mate.
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Got the new LP and it's decent enough, Life won't wait and rancid 2000 always my favorites apart from the first LP...out come the wolves is just a reminder of when punk became trendy "again"...I remember meeting Tim years ago in the rock city nightclub after they played and asked him to sign a playing card (all we had on us) and under his name asked to write "cunt" not In a horrible way but we just thought it would be funny...his bodyguard made quick work of us!
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motorsmell wrote:
07 Jun 2023, 4:51pm
Got the new LP and it's decent enough, Life won't wait and rancid 2000 always my favorites apart from the first LP...out come the wolves is just a reminder of when punk became trendy "again"...I remember meeting Tim years ago in the rock city nightclub after they played and asked him to sign a playing card (all we had on us) and under his name asked to wright "cunt" not I a horrible way but we just thought it would be funny...his bodyguard make quick work of us!
Haha great story.
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