What Are you Listening to Right Now?

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matedog wrote:
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Just got turned onto Sudan Archives. Pretty wild hard to pin down genre stuff. Terrific energy, almost feels anthemic.
Matey checking out the TnA. :shifty:

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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:22pm
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As a concept—taking 30+ year-old abandoned song ideas and trying to resuscitate them—it could have resulted in complete farce, but it turned out to be one of the best records in their arsenal. There's an argument, too, that this would have been a good time to stop.
This is a great record. I'm torn as to whether they should've stopped. But they haven't matched it in any shape or form. Seem to be treading water since.
I generally like Wire and the accompanying mini-lp Nocturnal Koreans, but they weren't all that notable, but things have been notably ho-hum since. The strange thing is that the various groups that Graham Lewis (most with Matt Simms) has been in for the last five or six years have put out some exceptional records (e.g., UUUU). Which kind of points the finger at Colin Newman and his vision of what Wire is. Unfortunately.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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As a concept—taking 30+ year-old abandoned song ideas and trying to resuscitate them—it could have resulted in complete farce, but it turned out to be one of the best records in their arsenal. There's an argument, too, that this would have been a good time to stop.
This is a great record. I'm torn as to whether they should've stopped. But they haven't matched it in any shape or form. Seem to be treading water since.
I generally like Wire and the accompanying mini-lp Nocturnal Koreans, but they weren't all that notable, but things have been notably ho-hum since. The strange thing is that the various groups that Graham Lewis (most with Matt Simms) has been in for the last five or six years have put out some exceptional records (e.g., UUUU). Which kind of points the finger at Colin Newman and his vision of what Wire is. Unfortunately.
I like both those records and Red Barked Trees. But they don't live up to Change Becomes Us. I think your correct also regards Newmans vision for the band. But you know that Wire are still capable of surprising us. And like many other early post punk bands the early albums are untouchable.
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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 6:05pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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As a concept—taking 30+ year-old abandoned song ideas and trying to resuscitate them—it could have resulted in complete farce, but it turned out to be one of the best records in their arsenal. There's an argument, too, that this would have been a good time to stop.
This is a great record. I'm torn as to whether they should've stopped. But they haven't matched it in any shape or form. Seem to be treading water since.
I generally like Wire and the accompanying mini-lp Nocturnal Koreans, but they weren't all that notable, but things have been notably ho-hum since. The strange thing is that the various groups that Graham Lewis (most with Matt Simms) has been in for the last five or six years have put out some exceptional records (e.g., UUUU). Which kind of points the finger at Colin Newman and his vision of what Wire is. Unfortunately.
I like both those records and Red Barked Trees. But they don't live up to Change Becomes Us. I think your correct also regards Newmans vision for the band. But you know that Wire are still capable of surprising us. And like many other early post punk bands the early albums are untouchable.
I sincerely believe that they should get an outside producer to shake shit up. I know Colin says that him producing Wire means they have someone who actually understands Wire, but that's a bit self-serving. His perspective is valid (duh) but I think it's hindering creativity. They were a band deservedly known for not being complacent, yet that's exactly what they seem to me.
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revbob wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:34pm
matedog wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 4:42pm


Just got turned onto Sudan Archives. Pretty wild hard to pin down genre stuff. Terrific energy, almost feels anthemic.
Matey checking out the TnA. :shifty:
She does like to be naked on all her album covers. I don’t mind…
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 7:19pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 6:05pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 5:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Sep 2022, 7:42pm
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As a concept—taking 30+ year-old abandoned song ideas and trying to resuscitate them—it could have resulted in complete farce, but it turned out to be one of the best records in their arsenal. There's an argument, too, that this would have been a good time to stop.
This is a great record. I'm torn as to whether they should've stopped. But they haven't matched it in any shape or form. Seem to be treading water since.
I generally like Wire and the accompanying mini-lp Nocturnal Koreans, but they weren't all that notable, but things have been notably ho-hum since. The strange thing is that the various groups that Graham Lewis (most with Matt Simms) has been in for the last five or six years have put out some exceptional records (e.g., UUUU). Which kind of points the finger at Colin Newman and his vision of what Wire is. Unfortunately.
I like both those records and Red Barked Trees. But they don't live up to Change Becomes Us. I think your correct also regards Newmans vision for the band. But you know that Wire are still capable of surprising us. And like many other early post punk bands the early albums are untouchable.
I sincerely believe that they should get an outside producer to shake shit up. I know Colin says that him producing Wire means they have someone who actually understands Wire, but that's a bit self-serving. His perspective is valid (duh) but I think it's hindering creativity. They were a band deservedly known for not being complacent, yet that's exactly what they seem to me.
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.
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17 Sep 2022, 5:13am
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.

The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 6:25am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 5:13am
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.

The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:42am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 6:25am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 5:13am
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.

The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:46am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:42am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 6:25am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 5:13am
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.

The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 8:37am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:46am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:42am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 6:25am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 5:13am
Having some who doesn't understand Wire would push the boundaries.

The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
In their own way, yeah, they are. Fucking old people. :rolleyes:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:36am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 8:37am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:46am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:42am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 6:25am


The band's complaint about Manscape was that producer David Allen didn't understand the band. Well, maybe that was the problem with that record. And in 2001 or so, they tried recording with Albini, and that didn't go well. I suspect they're really insular at this point. But I agree that someone well outside the camp would be a good idea.
How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
In their own way, yeah, they are. Fucking old people. :rolleyes:
Old people shouldn't be allowed. :disshame:
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:36am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 8:37am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:46am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:42am


How about someone way younger than them and not a named producer.
I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
In their own way, yeah, they are. Fucking old people. :rolleyes:
Old people shouldn't be allowed. :disshame:
The older I get, the more I believe it to be true.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 11:22am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:36am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 8:37am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 7:46am


I could see the band bullying someone without cred and serious self-confidence. But it would do them well.
Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
In their own way, yeah, they are. Fucking old people. :rolleyes:
Old people shouldn't be allowed. :disshame:
The older I get, the more I believe it to be true.
Proof that you can't trust older people. I was hoping to go to Carrousel once I reached 30.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 12:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 11:22am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 10:36am
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Sep 2022, 8:37am


Conservative rock n roll band. 😏
In their own way, yeah, they are. Fucking old people. :rolleyes:
Old people shouldn't be allowed. :disshame:
The older I get, the more I believe it to be true.
Proof that you can't trust older people. I was hoping to go to Carrousel once I reached 30.
We could take up a collection here!
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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