Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5

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matedog wrote:Pretty much the entirety of Dictator's lyrics are clumsy and hamfisted.
The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
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Marky Dread wrote:
matedog wrote:Pretty much the entirety of Dictator's lyrics are clumsy and hamfisted.
The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
matedog wrote:Pretty much the entirety of Dictator's lyrics are clumsy and hamfisted.
The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
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Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
matedog wrote:Pretty much the entirety of Dictator's lyrics are clumsy and hamfisted.
The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
matedog wrote:Pretty much the entirety of Dictator's lyrics are clumsy and hamfisted.
The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc. No Pete Howard is a massive fuck up by Bernie maybe if the multitracks could be enhanced by the band then who knows.
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Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc.
I'm not sure Heston's back teeth would be worth eet. :shifty:
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biopunk wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc.
I'm not sure Heston's back teeth would be worth eet. :shifty:
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A couple of people have requested the favourite Bowie album/album track format, let's do it...

I'll just post my favourite album tracks because I'm not very well versed with his albums outside of the classic early-70s period.

Moonage Daydream
Lady Stardust
Queen Bitch
Up the Hill Backwards
Kooks
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Albums - the 5 that I probably listen to the most
Low
Scary Monsters
Ziggy Stardust
Hunky Dory
Station to Station

Album tracks
hmm only 5 - I'll sleep on this one and get back to you

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Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote: The first verse is OK but the 2nd and 3rd verses are plain awful.
You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc. No Pete Howard is a massive fuck up by Bernie maybe if the multitracks could be enhanced by the band then who knows.

I think you'd have to try and take the vocals and re-record all the rest from scratch.

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revbob wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote: You have to keep wondering about the placement of Dictator on CtC. Awful lyrics, a barely passable tune and rotten production does not a good opener make. Then they added some discordant radio babble over the top!
I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc. No Pete Howard is a massive fuck up by Bernie maybe if the multitracks could be enhanced by the band then who knows.

I think you'd have to try and take the vocals and re-record all the rest from scratch.
There are some guitars that are worth keeping. The synths and sound effects all have to go and the biggest crime is the lack of real drums especially when the drummer was so good.
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Marky Dread wrote:
revbob wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote: I'm convinced that was Bernie stamping down his authority from the off. Dictator is very apt really.

With all the songs the band had at the time that could've been a very tasty album if they dropped a few that made the final cut and replaced them with some of the better outtakes like Pouring Rain & Ammunition.
I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc. No Pete Howard is a massive fuck up by Bernie maybe if the multitracks could be enhanced by the band then who knows.

I think you'd have to try and take the vocals and re-record all the rest from scratch.
There are some guitars that are worth keeping. The synths and sound effects all have to go and the biggest crime is the lack of real drums especially when the drummer was so good.
I am all for redressing the Great 80's Drum Crimes.

I want the Jesus & Mary Chain's 'April Skies' fixed before 'Cut the Crap' tho...
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1. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
2. Hunky Dory
3. Aladdin Sane
4. Diamond Dogs
5. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)

1. Star
2. Moonage Daydream
3. Queen Bitch
4. Oh! You Pretty Things
5. Hang On to Yourself (Album version)
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biopunk wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
revbob wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote: I'm still convinced there's a good album in there somewhere. I would give my back teeth for the multitracks.
I'm not sure anymore if the multitracks would really reveal the band that were The Clash we heard live at Brixton/Paris/Stockholm/Seattle etc. No Pete Howard is a massive fuck up by Bernie maybe if the multitracks could be enhanced by the band then who knows.

I think you'd have to try and take the vocals and re-record all the rest from scratch.
There are some guitars that are worth keeping. The synths and sound effects all have to go and the biggest crime is the lack of real drums especially when the drummer was so good.
I am all for redressing the Great 80's Drum Crimes.

I want the Jesus & Mary Chain's 'April Skies' fixed before 'Cut the Crap' tho...
The thing about the JAMC was that it fitted their music better with their simple drum patterns. Of course it's better with real drums but on the whole much more suited and preferable than all of CtC.
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'Darklands'! I meant the 'Darklands' LP... :disshame:
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