Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5

[Marky Dread]

I just noticed Taxman and Your Bird Can Sing have almost the same bassline.

And don't forget Weller nicked it twice for the Jam before he finally got caught on Start!

Oh, for what? I can't think off the top of my head.

To Be Someone and Liza Radley.

...and the guitar riff for "Dreams of Children".

[BitterTom]

I just noticed Taxman and Your Bird Can Sing have almost the same bassline.

And don't forget Weller nicked it twice for the Jam before he finally got caught on Start!

Bruce liked messing with those series of notes, not necessarily in the right order but you can hear it just after a minute on Smithers-Jones

[Heston]

I just noticed Taxman and Your Bird Can Sing have almost the same bassline.

And don't forget Weller nicked it twice for the Jam before he finally got caught on Start!

Bruce liked messing with those series of notes, not necessarily in the right order but you can hear it just after a minute on Smithers-Jones

I know the bit you mean. Fantastic bass player was Bruce, and to sing those great harmonies whilst playing those bass lines was no mean feat.

[Marky Dread]

Top 5 tracks from Buzzcocks "Another Music In A Different Kitchen".

1. Autonomy
2. Fiction Romance
3. Fast Cars
4. I Don't Mind
5. Moving Away From the Pulsebeat

[Kory]

1. You Tear Me Up
2. Fast Cars
3. I Don't Mind
4. No Reply
5.Pulsebeat

[Dr. Medulla]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

[Flex]

Great album, I should listen to it again this weekend

1. Fast Cars
2. You Tear Me Up
3. Love Battery
4. I Don't Mind
5. Autonomy

[Marky Dread]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

[Dr. Medulla]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.

[Marky Dread]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.

Yep for sure. You can hear elements of krautrock in " Why Can't I Touch It". They were/are so much more than the punk Beatles.

[Toppers Boppers]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Fast Cars
3. Love Battery
4. Sixteen
5. Get On Our Own

Perfect pop-art-punk, sublime packaging, genius production.
1978 was theirs.

[tepista]

I'm looking forward to the Top 5 from the Cost of Living ep.

[Dr. Medulla]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.

Yep for sure. You can hear elements of krautrock in " Why Can't I Touch It". They were/are so much more than the punk Beatles.

Even tho everyone here is catholic enough in their tastes and have a fairly deep understanding of punk's diversity, the default narrative/aesthetic of Ramones/Sex Pistols really is strong in that we still feel we have to express other influences on punk bands to explain why they don't sound the same. That is, it's still such a powerful default narrative that punk is just stripped down, snarly, and rough rock.

[Marky Dread]

1. I Don't Mind
2. Autonomy
3. Moving Away from the Pulse Beat
4. Fast Cars
5. You Tear Me Up

Such an un-punk album title—more akin to something in an art rock vein.

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.

Yep for sure. You can hear elements of krautrock in " Why Can't I Touch It". They were/are so much more than the punk Beatles.

Even tho everyone here is catholic enough in their tastes and have a fairly deep understanding of punk's diversity, the default narrative/aesthetic of Ramones/Sex Pistols really is strong in that we still feel we have to express other influences on punk bands to explain why they don't sound the same. That is, it's still such a powerful default narrative that punk is just stripped down, snarly, and rough rock.

When I think of what is considered the early punk sound of that sped up R&B that is the bare bones rock n roll. It is more in line with the 60s garage band's and some early psychedelic band's. Out of the early UK punk bands Pistols/Damned/Clash/Buzzcocks (the big four) only really The Clash used the Ramones template. The Pistols come across as a mix of Small Faces/New York Dolls, The Damned The Stooges/MC5, Buzzcocks The Troggs/Beatles. But you can hear so many other influences like The Clash had reggae, Buzzcocks with Beefheart and Krautrock, Pistols had the glam of Mud and the rock of the Faces. It's an amalgamation of all these influences and attitude. This for me is what sets them apart from a lot of the second wave of punk and what gives them their originality.

[Dr. Medulla]

Way more than just a punk band to me. Lots of influences outside of punk.

But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.

Yep for sure. You can hear elements of krautrock in " Why Can't I Touch It". They were/are so much more than the punk Beatles.

Even tho everyone here is catholic enough in their tastes and have a fairly deep understanding of punk's diversity, the default narrative/aesthetic of Ramones/Sex Pistols really is strong in that we still feel we have to express other influences on punk bands to explain why they don't sound the same. That is, it's still such a powerful default narrative that punk is just stripped down, snarly, and rough rock.

When I think of what is considered the early punk sound of that sped up R&B that is the bare bones rock n roll. It is more in line with the 60s garage band's and some early psychedelic band's. Out of the early UK punk bands Pistols/Damned/Clash/Buzzcocks (the big four) only really The Clash used the Ramones template. The Pistols come across as a mix of Small Faces/New York Dolls, The Damned The Stooges/MC5, Buzzcocks The Troggs/Beatles. But you can hear so many other influences like The Clash had reggae, Buzzcocks with Beefheart and Krautrock, Pistols had the glam of Mud and the rock of the Faces. It's an amalgamation of all these influences and attitude. This for me is what sets them apart from a lot of the second wave of punk and what gives them their originality.

Right—exactly. But we still have that predominant narrative, eagerly promoted by McLaren at the time, of primitive, basic, angry, and unsophisticated. Even tho all those early punk scenes—London, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco—showed incredible diversity right from the start. It really is what came after that fits the stereotype better (even tho that, too, means ignoring a lot).