Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5

[Flex]

I think Jenny and Doc could lawyer up and argue that the definition of "debut single" should be taken to mean "the first single the band released" not necessarily "their first single, which is also the band's first release"

[Marky Dread]

1. X-ray Spex - Oh Bondage Up Yours!
2. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
3. Buzzcocks -Orgasm Addict
4. Sex Pistols - Anarchy
5. The Damned - New Rose

Jenny im sorry to burst your bubble but the Buzzcocks debut was The Spiral Scratch EP not Orgasm Addict.

Didn’t someone else say that one too? I’m too lazy to look.

Yeah that bloody new guy Doctor something or other. I have up with his post being so wrong.

[Marky Dread]

I think Jenny and Doc could lawyer up and argue that the definition of "debut single" should be taken to mean "the first single the band released" not necessarily "their first single, which is also the band's first release"

...and I suppose I could argue that I stated "debut" not "major label debut".

[Flex]

...and I suppose I could argue that I stated "debut" not "major label debut".

Eh? Spiral Scratch is an EP so it's not a debut single.

Spiral Scratch is such a great release.

[Dr. Medulla]

1. X-ray Spex - Oh Bondage Up Yours!
2. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
3. Buzzcocks -Orgasm Addict
4. Sex Pistols - Anarchy
5. The Damned - New Rose

Jenny im sorry to burst your bubble but the Buzzcocks debut was The Spiral Scratch EP not Orgasm Addict.

Didn’t someone else say that one too? I’m too lazy to look.

Yeah that bloody new guy Doctor something or other. I have up with his post being so wrong.

Wikipedia says "Orgasm Addict" was the first single. EP's are not singles.

[Wolter]

...and I suppose I could argue that I stated "debut" not "major label debut".

Eh? Spiral Scratch is an EP so it's not a debut single.

Spiral Scratch is such a great release.

What I love about it is that both Magazine and the Shelley Buzzcocks sounds like the logical extension of it while being very different bands

[Marky Dread]

1. X-ray Spex - Oh Bondage Up Yours!
2. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
3. Buzzcocks -Orgasm Addict
4. Sex Pistols - Anarchy
5. The Damned - New Rose

Jenny im sorry to burst your bubble but the Buzzcocks debut was The Spiral Scratch EP not Orgasm Addict.

Didn’t someone else say that one too? I’m too lazy to look.

Yeah that bloody new guy Doctor something or other. I have up with his post being so wrong.

Wikipedia says "Orgasm Addict" was the first single. EP's are not singles.

Seriously ''Wikipedia'' that's your defence.

[Marky Dread]

Jenny im sorry to burst your bubble but the Buzzcocks debut was The Spiral Scratch EP not Orgasm Addict.

Didn’t someone else say that one too? I’m too lazy to look.

Yeah that bloody new guy Doctor something or other. I have up with his post being so wrong.

Wikipedia says "Orgasm Addict" was the first single. EP's are not singles.

Seriously ''Wikipedia'' that's your defence.

For me an EP is a single no difference. But as I love JB and ''Spiral Scratch'' is not on ''Singles Going Steady'' ''Orgasm Addict'' gets a pass.




Damn wish I'd picked that.

[Dr. Medulla]

For me an EP is a single no difference.

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

[Marky Dread]

For me an EP is a single no difference.

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

This distinction is far from true. Spiral Scratch was a 7'' The Cost of Living EP a 7'' Too Much to Young EP a 7'' all those Beatles EPs were 7''. The list is endless.

There are many singles released with more than one track per side the punk/new wave era is littered with these anomalies. The EP was nothing more than a value for money exercise for those that that couldn't stretch their pockets to the cost of an album. EPs have a lead track that get's picked for radio play. Some cases the EP is also released as a two sided version also. EP just means extra play offering the consumer value for money depending on the artist of course. 12'' singles can also be direct copies of the 7'' not all consist of remixed or extended versions etc. All 7'' EPs were put on shelves/racks etc with singles.

[Silent Majority]

...and I suppose I could argue that I stated "debut" not "major label debut".

Eh? Spiral Scratch is an EP so it's not a debut single.

Spiral Scratch is such a great release.

What I love about it is that both Magazine and the Shelley Buzzcocks sounds like the logical extension of it while being very different bands

Yeah, I think you and I discussed this on twitter at some point.

[Dr. Medulla]

For me an EP is a single no difference.

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

This distinction is far from true. Spiral Scratch was a 7'' The Cost of Living EP a 7'' Too Much to Young EP a 7'' all those Beatles EPs were 7''. The list is endless.

There are many singles released with more than one track per side the punk/new wave era is littered with these anomalies. The EP was nothing more than a value for money exercise for those that that couldn't stretch their pockets to the cost of an album. EPs have a lead track that get's picked for radio play. Some cases the EP is also released as a two sided version also. EP just means extra play offering the consumer value for money depending on the artist of course. 12'' singles can also be direct copies of the 7'' not all consist of remixed or extended versions etc. All 7'' EPs were put on shelves/racks etc with singles.

But you know you're describing exceptions to the rule. Even the names indicate the distinction. A single has one song per side. An EP has extended play beyond a single. An EP is certainly close to a single than an LP, but everyone involved understand the basic distinctions.

[Marky Dread]

For me an EP is a single no difference.

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

This distinction is far from true. Spiral Scratch was a 7'' The Cost of Living EP a 7'' Too Much to Young EP a 7'' all those Beatles EPs were 7''. The list is endless.

There are many singles released with more than one track per side the punk/new wave era is littered with these anomalies. The EP was nothing more than a value for money exercise for those that that couldn't stretch their pockets to the cost of an album. EPs have a lead track that get's picked for radio play. Some cases the EP is also released as a two sided version also. EP just means extra play offering the consumer value for money depending on the artist of course. 12'' singles can also be direct copies of the 7'' not all consist of remixed or extended versions etc. All 7'' EPs were put on shelves/racks etc with singles.

But you know you're describing exceptions to the rule. Even the names indicate the distinction. A single has one song per side. An EP has extended play beyond a single. An EP is certainly close to a single than an LP, but everyone involved understand the basic distinctions.

Of course but what I'm getting at here is be it single or EP they are not as you mentioned pressed up as 10'' vinyl records. They have been in the past mostly the 50s but 10'' singles or EPs were the exception to the rule by the time we get to the 60s.

They are both marketed the same it's a 7'' single or a 7'' single EP both chart exactly the same way and only the lead off track gets the radio play. Don't release your 7'' EP and put the best track on the B-side as it won't get played.

[Dr. Medulla]

For me an EP is a single no difference.

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

This distinction is far from true. Spiral Scratch was a 7'' The Cost of Living EP a 7'' Too Much to Young EP a 7'' all those Beatles EPs were 7''. The list is endless.

There are many singles released with more than one track per side the punk/new wave era is littered with these anomalies. The EP was nothing more than a value for money exercise for those that that couldn't stretch their pockets to the cost of an album. EPs have a lead track that get's picked for radio play. Some cases the EP is also released as a two sided version also. EP just means extra play offering the consumer value for money depending on the artist of course. 12'' singles can also be direct copies of the 7'' not all consist of remixed or extended versions etc. All 7'' EPs were put on shelves/racks etc with singles.

But you know you're describing exceptions to the rule. Even the names indicate the distinction. A single has one song per side. An EP has extended play beyond a single. An EP is certainly close to a single than an LP, but everyone involved understand the basic distinctions.

Of course but what I'm getting at here is be it single or EP they are not as you mentioned pressed up as 10'' vinyl records. They have been in the past mostly the 50s but 10'' singles or EPs were the exception to the rule by the time we get to the 60s.

They are both marketed the same it's a 7'' single or a 7'' single EP both chart exactly the same way and only the lead off track gets the radio play. Don't release your 7'' EP and put the best track on the B-side as it won't get played.

I accept your apology.

[Marky Dread]

A single (back in the old days of vinyl) was 7" format; an EP was 10" or 12". (The 12" was a different beast altogether. The merchants stocking them couldn't put them with the 7" singles.) A single also has only one song on the A-side; an EP normally has more than one song on the A-side.

This distinction is far from true. Spiral Scratch was a 7'' The Cost of Living EP a 7'' Too Much to Young EP a 7'' all those Beatles EPs were 7''. The list is endless.

There are many singles released with more than one track per side the punk/new wave era is littered with these anomalies. The EP was nothing more than a value for money exercise for those that that couldn't stretch their pockets to the cost of an album. EPs have a lead track that get's picked for radio play. Some cases the EP is also released as a two sided version also. EP just means extra play offering the consumer value for money depending on the artist of course. 12'' singles can also be direct copies of the 7'' not all consist of remixed or extended versions etc. All 7'' EPs were put on shelves/racks etc with singles.

But you know you're describing exceptions to the rule. Even the names indicate the distinction. A single has one song per side. An EP has extended play beyond a single. An EP is certainly close to a single than an LP, but everyone involved understand the basic distinctions.

Of course but what I'm getting at here is be it single or EP they are not as you mentioned pressed up as 10'' vinyl records. They have been in the past mostly the 50s but 10'' singles or EPs were the exception to the rule by the time we get to the 60s.

They are both marketed the same it's a 7'' single or a 7'' single EP both chart exactly the same way and only the lead off track gets the radio play. Don't release your 7'' EP and put the best track on the B-side as it won't get played.

I accept your apology.

Your graciousness bcomes you.