Careful sunshine we'll have none of your proto tricks here.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:27amI almost got cheeky and selected Television's Johnny Jewel to posit pre-post-punkMarky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:01amBut what is punk or post punk? I mean is it a single or is it an ep? It's a confusing world for sure.
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Thank You For The MusicMarky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:28amWell whatever it is we can all agree it's great music.Toppers Boppers wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:14amNearly put Jocko Homo (A-side of my UK Stiff single), but you've gotta do ya research round here to spot it was flipped from the original Booji Boy release. IMHO - it's more post-punk than punk, but like some choices above it's 'borderline'.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:01amBut what is punk or post punk? I mean is it a single or is it an ep? It's a confusing world for sure.
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And none of your positing eitherMarky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:30amCareful sunshine we'll have none of your proto tricks here.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:27amI almost got cheeky and selected Television's Johnny Jewel to posit pre-post-punkMarky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:01amBut what is punk or post punk? I mean is it a single or is it an ep? It's a confusing world for sure.
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Everyone likes a good posit once in a while.Toppers Boppers wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:01pmApologies.. trying irony (and failing). Not heard posit for a while, but I like it.
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Some time ago, I made a tentative claim that the New York punk scene (plus Devo and Pere Ubu) also created post-punk at the same time as punk. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but more a comment about how pregnant with ideas things were right off the bat, before the Ramones and Dead Boys aesthetic came to be the popular idea of what punk was.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:27amI almost got cheeky and selected Television's Johnny Jewel to posit pre-post-punkMarky Dread wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 11:01amBut what is punk or post punk? I mean is it a single or is it an ep? It's a confusing world for sure.
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Punk put forward as post punk fact or as a basis for top 5 argument.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:07pmEveryone likes a good posit once in a while.Toppers Boppers wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:01pmApologies.. trying irony (and failing). Not heard posit for a while, but I like it.
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yeah, i think the new york scene basically birthed those sounds simultaneously. If anything, the Ramones were the weird outliers for a few years sound-wise in nyc punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:38pmSome time ago, I made a tentative claim that the New York punk scene (plus Devo and Pere Ubu) also created post-punk at the same time as punk. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but more a comment about how pregnant with ideas things were right off the bat, before the Ramones and Dead Boys aesthetic came to be the popular idea of what punk was.
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Indeed, and when I'm done with postulating I shall venture a good positFlex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:07pmEveryone likes a good posit once in a while.Toppers Boppers wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:01pmApologies.. trying irony (and failing). Not heard posit for a while, but I like it.
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Yeah there's a ton of pre punk bands that are more in line with post punk US/UK. Ramones became a blueprint for a lot of punk bands which I always find ironic as the Ramones have way more in common with the sound of the 60s garage bands than what followed with the post punk bands. I think though it's all cyclical.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:46pmyeah, i think the new york scene basically birthed those sounds simultaneously. If anything, the Ramones were the weird outliers for a few years sound-wise in nyc punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:38pmSome time ago, I made a tentative claim that the New York punk scene (plus Devo and Pere Ubu) also created post-punk at the same time as punk. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but more a comment about how pregnant with ideas things were right off the bat, before the Ramones and Dead Boys aesthetic came to be the popular idea of what punk was.
Odd balls like Captain Beefheart and even Zappa can be heard in acts like XTC and Talking Heads etc.
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And that doesn't even have to involve no wave, which really took things in several other directions. In terms of my heart, I prefer UK punk, but intellectually the US—first in NY, then in California and DC hardcore—is far more interesting in terms of ideas and politics.Flex wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:46pmyeah, i think the new york scene basically birthed those sounds simultaneously. If anything, the Ramones were the weird outliers for a few years sound-wise in nyc punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 12:38pmSome time ago, I made a tentative claim that the New York punk scene (plus Devo and Pere Ubu) also created post-punk at the same time as punk. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but more a comment about how pregnant with ideas things were right off the bat, before the Ramones and Dead Boys aesthetic came to be the popular idea of what punk was.
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Gang of Four—Damaged Goods
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Au Pairs—You
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I can't really do better than this. I would maybe sub out You by the Au Pairs for Orphans.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 7:31amNew Order, “Ceremony”
Teenage Jesus and The Jerks, “Orphans”
Bauhaus, “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”
Gang of Four, “Damaged Goods”
Talking Heads, “Psycho Killer”
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It'll just be me and Heston repping for Lydia then.JennyB wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 6:06pmI can't really do better than this. I would maybe sub out You by the Au Pairs for Orphans.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 7:31amNew Order, “Ceremony”
Teenage Jesus and The Jerks, “Orphans”
Bauhaus, “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”
Gang of Four, “Damaged Goods”
Talking Heads, “Psycho Killer”
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