Yes totally agree. With Malcolm he thrived on selling the band being unable to play but of course that was just rubbish.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 4:55pmRight—exactly. But we still have that predominant narrative, eagerly promoted by McLaren at the time, of primitive, basic, angry, and unsophisticated. Even tho all those early punk scenes—London, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco—showed incredible diversity right from the start. It really is what came after that fits the stereotype better (even tho that, too, means ignoring a lot).Marky Dread wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 4:47pmWhen I think of what is considered the early punk sound of that sped up R&B that is the bare bones rock n roll. It is more in line with the 60s garage band's and some early psychedelic band's. Out of the early UK punk bands Pistols/Damned/Clash/Buzzcocks (the big four) only really The Clash used the Ramones template. The Pistols come across as a mix of Small Faces/New York Dolls, The Damned The Stooges/MC5, Buzzcocks The Troggs/Beatles. But you can hear so many other influences like The Clash had reggae, Buzzcocks with Beefheart and Krautrock, Pistols had the glam of Mud and the rock of the Faces. It's an amalgamation of all these influences and attitude. This for me is what sets them apart from a lot of the second wave of punk and what gives them their originality.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 4:03pmEven tho everyone here is catholic enough in their tastes and have a fairly deep understanding of punk's diversity, the default narrative/aesthetic of Ramones/Sex Pistols really is strong in that we still feel we have to express other influences on punk bands to explain why they don't sound the same. That is, it's still such a powerful default narrative that punk is just stripped down, snarly, and rough rock.Marky Dread wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 3:41pmYep for sure. You can hear elements of krautrock in " Why Can't I Touch It". They were/are so much more than the punk Beatles.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 3:29pm
But distinctly within that early wave of punk bands, if more pop-friendly than others.
Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
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My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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Top 5 tracks from "The Who Sell Out".
1. Armenia City in the Sky
2. I Can See For Miles
3. I Can't Reach You
4. Relax
5. Sunrise
1. Armenia City in the Sky
2. I Can See For Miles
3. I Can't Reach You
4. Relax
5. Sunrise
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
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1. I Can See For Miles
2. Mary Anne With the Shaky Hand
3. Silas Stingy
4. Can't Reach You
5. Relax
2. Mary Anne With the Shaky Hand
3. Silas Stingy
4. Can't Reach You
5. Relax
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
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Sunrise
Odorono
Tattoo
I Can't Reach You
I Can See For Miles
Number one is my favourite Who track ever sometimes.
Odorono
Tattoo
I Can't Reach You
I Can See For Miles
Number one is my favourite Who track ever sometimes.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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I like every track on the album.
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1. I Can See For Miles
2. Armenia
3. Mary Anne
4. I Can't Reach You
5. Tattoo
The last fully satisfying Who album. They shoulda quit right then and there!
2. Armenia
3. Mary Anne
4. I Can't Reach You
5. Tattoo
The last fully satisfying Who album. They shoulda quit right then and there!
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Re: Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
Another album I'm unfamiliar with, will listen and get back.
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Re: Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
No, that's let it be.
Re: Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
I've got a feeling you're pulling my leg...
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"Get Back" is the clue there bud.
You must listen to the Who album as you are missing out on some awesome tunes and adverts.
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It took a while for Who Sell Out to grow on me to be fair. I thought it sounded weedy when I first heard it, and was never the biggest fan of Pete's voice. I persevered though, and Pete sings 3 of my top 5.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 5:13pm"Get Back" is the clue there bud.
You must listen to the Who album as you are missing out on some awesome tunes and adverts.
Still my favourite Who album.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
Re: Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
I returned James' with I've Got A Feeling in my replyMarky Dread wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 5:13pm"Get Back" is the clue there bud.
You must listen to the Who album as you are missing out on some awesome tunes and adverts.
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It's all clever stuff.BitterTom wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 5:33pmI returned James' with I've Got A Feeling in my replyMarky Dread wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 5:13pm"Get Back" is the clue there bud.
You must listen to the Who album as you are missing out on some awesome tunes and adverts.
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1) I Can See For Miles
2) Mary Anne
3) Tattoo
4) Armenia
5) Melancholia...which I know is not an actual album track, but I like it.
2) Mary Anne
3) Tattoo
4) Armenia
5) Melancholia...which I know is not an actual album track, but I like it.
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