Group therapy. Let's talk unpopular musical opinions.
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Sparked by Heston's Top 5 thread, I dig the Pet Shop Boys—or at least the singles (Popart is one fantastic best-of compilation). I can't think of a better singer than Tennant for conveying a deliberate emotional detachment. There is such an arty deadness to his voice, yet mixed with superb, often bouncy, electronic pop. It's a wonderful juxtaposition.
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I have never owned a record by them however don't mind when they are on the radio. I remember seeing them do a medly of hits (probably a Brits lifetime achievement award- something like that) they had some good songs.
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Not to mention staying power. They've been there...in and around the fringes of mass acceptance...for 3 decades. Tough balancing act since any given album is one wrong move away from sounding horribly dated. But they manage to stay just one step ahead of clubland to remain relevant, and keep their back-catalogue somewhat relevant. Ain't my cup of tea, but takes a lot of talent and discipline to maintain that staying power. And it's not like they reinvent themselves every few years or made a calculated marketing decision like Human League did to exit the world stage to stay huge on the charts in France or something...you can tell it's a PSB's song right away, and they get consistently good reviews for their PSB-ness.Dr. Medulla wrote:Sparked by Heston's Top 5 thread, I dig the Pet Shop Boys—or at least the singles (Popart is one fantastic best-of compilation). I can't think of a better singer than Tennant for conveying a deliberate emotional detachment. There is such an arty deadness to his voice, yet mixed with superb, often bouncy, electronic pop. It's a wonderful juxtaposition.
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Jesus, that is true. I had their first album just before I discovered punk back in '85-ish. And, as you said, they've never modified their sound for the current trends—they always sound like themselves and still succeed for the better part of three decades.Rat Patrol wrote:Not to mention staying power. They've been there...in and around the fringes of mass acceptance...for 3 decades.
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I love their songs out AbFab. Camp at its finest.
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They're shite.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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I'm sorry, you must have meant to post this in the I Live In a Glass House Thread.Heston wrote:They're shite.
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And Heston is bleeding like a stuck pig.Wolter wrote:I'm sorry, you must have meant to post this in the I Live In a Glass House Thread.Heston wrote:They're shite.
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I think they have made some fine singles. Albums are patchy.Dr. Medulla wrote:And Heston is bleeding like a stuck pig.Wolter wrote:I'm sorry, you must have meant to post this in the I Live In a Glass House Thread.Heston wrote:They're shite.
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I don't think I've ever listened to any of their albums except the first one. And that orange-covered one.Marky Dread wrote:I think they have made some fine singles. Albums are patchy.Dr. Medulla wrote:And Heston is bleeding like a stuck pig.Wolter wrote:I'm sorry, you must have meant to post this in the I Live In a Glass House Thread.Heston wrote:They're shite.
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I have only heard probably 4 myself but the singles were by far the best tracks.Dr. Medulla wrote:I don't think I've ever listened to any of their albums except the first one. And that orange-covered one.Marky Dread wrote:I think they have made some fine singles. Albums are patchy.Dr. Medulla wrote:And Heston is bleeding like a stuck pig.Wolter wrote:I'm sorry, you must have meant to post this in the I Live In a Glass House Thread.Heston wrote:They're shite.
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I wouldn't put The Great Milenko on the same level as Ice-T and PE's best albums, but it is a genuinely good album (to me). And it somehow has Slash and Steve Jones on it. And it's by far their most accessible to the uninitiated - everything they put out after that is very inside-joke-ish, like an infinite Juggalo feedback loop. I just dug out my CD of this and put it on the stereo for the first time in over a decade - there are some great beats on here and it's hooky as hell and well-produced. There isn't a single song I'd skip past on here (although I have the original 14-song version that was recalled a day after Disney released it - I think the revised version with 19 songs or whatever is too much)Wolter wrote:Yeah. I'm not convinced even Hoy or Still216 (Hoy without the Hoy) will defend that.Kaleb wrote:Woof.
All that said, every listenable song by ICP not included on The Great Milenko could fit on half of a 30-minute cassette side. And much like Dookie by Green Day, I don't think I would appreciate it much now if I didn't listen to it a hundred million times when I was a punk-ass teenager.
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I stand corrected.Still216 wrote:I wouldn't put The Great Milenko on the same level as Ice-T and PE's best albums, but it is a genuinely good album (to me). And it somehow has Slash and Steve Jones on it. And it's by far their most accessible to the uninitiated - everything they put out after that is very inside-joke-ish, like an infinite Juggalo feedback loop. I just dug out my CD of this and put it on the stereo for the first time in over a decade - there are some great beats on here and it's hooky as hell and well-produced. There isn't a single song I'd skip past on here (although I have the original 14-song version that was recalled a day after Disney released it - I think the revised version with 19 songs or whatever is too much)Wolter wrote:Yeah. I'm not convinced even Hoy or Still216 (Hoy without the Hoy) will defend that.Kaleb wrote:Woof.
All that said, every listenable song by ICP not included on The Great Milenko could fit on half of a 30-minute cassette side. And much like Dookie by Green Day, I don't think I would appreciate it much now if I didn't listen to it a hundred million times when I was a punk-ass teenager.
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No one can be sure of the darkness contained in the Millennial heart.Wolter wrote:I stand corrected.Still216 wrote:I wouldn't put The Great Milenko on the same level as Ice-T and PE's best albums, but it is a genuinely good album (to me). And it somehow has Slash and Steve Jones on it. And it's by far their most accessible to the uninitiated - everything they put out after that is very inside-joke-ish, like an infinite Juggalo feedback loop. I just dug out my CD of this and put it on the stereo for the first time in over a decade - there are some great beats on here and it's hooky as hell and well-produced. There isn't a single song I'd skip past on here (although I have the original 14-song version that was recalled a day after Disney released it - I think the revised version with 19 songs or whatever is too much)Wolter wrote:Yeah. I'm not convinced even Hoy or Still216 (Hoy without the Hoy) will defend that.Kaleb wrote:Woof.
All that said, every listenable song by ICP not included on The Great Milenko could fit on half of a 30-minute cassette side. And much like Dookie by Green Day, I don't think I would appreciate it much now if I didn't listen to it a hundred million times when I was a punk-ass teenager.
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Hey, I don't cotton to any of this clown rap bullshit.Dr. Medulla wrote:No one can be sure of the darkness contained in the Millennial heart.Wolter wrote:I stand corrected.Still216 wrote:I wouldn't put The Great Milenko on the same level as Ice-T and PE's best albums, but it is a genuinely good album (to me). And it somehow has Slash and Steve Jones on it. And it's by far their most accessible to the uninitiated - everything they put out after that is very inside-joke-ish, like an infinite Juggalo feedback loop. I just dug out my CD of this and put it on the stereo for the first time in over a decade - there are some great beats on here and it's hooky as hell and well-produced. There isn't a single song I'd skip past on here (although I have the original 14-song version that was recalled a day after Disney released it - I think the revised version with 19 songs or whatever is too much)Wolter wrote:Yeah. I'm not convinced even Hoy or Still216 (Hoy without the Hoy) will defend that.Kaleb wrote:Woof.
All that said, every listenable song by ICP not included on The Great Milenko could fit on half of a 30-minute cassette side. And much like Dookie by Green Day, I don't think I would appreciate it much now if I didn't listen to it a hundred million times when I was a punk-ass teenager.
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