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coffeepotman wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:24pm
"The cool kids were listening to Destroyer and the followers were listeining to Zep."



I do not agree with the above statement, The REALLY cool kids were listening to neither
True, but in 8th grade at my suburban Milwaukee middle school in about 1990 - that’s what it seemed like. I had been exposed to a lot of music through my older cousin, but nobody in my class listened to the Smiths or the DK’s. Half of them could quote Jim Morrison, however.
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WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:33pm
coffeepotman wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:24pm
"The cool kids were listening to Destroyer and the followers were listeining to Zep."



I do not agree with the above statement, The REALLY cool kids were listening to neither
True, but in 8th grade at my suburban Milwaukee middle school in about 1990 - that’s what it seemed like. I had been exposed to a lot of music through my older cousin, but nobody in my class listened to the Smiths or the DK’s. Half of them could quote Jim Morrison, however.
Even to me at that time a lot of the bands - I didn’t know much about them. No internet to browse, no Spotify to stream. I’d get mix tapes from my cousin and know that I liked certain songs, but I didn’t know what half the bands even looked like or where they were from. I guess kids today are somewhat spoiled (in a good way - because it’s easier to get a good musical education).
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This is such a high quality album. Keep coming back to it for replays. Superb work.
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Silent Majority wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:49pm
This is such a high quality album. Keep coming back to it for replays. Superb work.
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eumaas wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 8:02pm
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:49pm
This is such a high quality album. Keep coming back to it for replays. Superb work.
I feel like I am missing something
Did you not get the download?
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25 Jan 2018, 11:29am
Free download of our new album here for anyone who wants to check it out....
https://www.filefactory.com/file/21quok ... 20King.rar
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Silent Majority wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:49pm
This is such a high quality album. Keep coming back to it for replays. Superb work.
Thanks mate, that is very much appreciated.
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WestwayKid wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:33pm
coffeepotman wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 7:24pm
"The cool kids were listening to Destroyer and the followers were listeining to Zep."



I do not agree with the above statement, The REALLY cool kids were listening to neither
True, but in 8th grade at my suburban Milwaukee middle school in about 1990 - that’s what it seemed like. I had been exposed to a lot of music through my older cousin, but nobody in my class listened to the Smiths or the DK’s. Half of them could quote Jim Morrison, however.
That's such a midwestern thing, don't you think? We moved to St. Louis my senior year in high school (summer of 1988) after growing up in Denver until 10th grade and spending 11th grade in New Orleans. People in St. Louis were astonished, absolutely blown away, by the fact that I didn't listen to classic rock. They thought I was a freak for listening to the Clash, Depeche Mode, Violent Femmes,Sisters of Mercy, Smiths, DK, Minor Threat, etc. And I was blown away by the fact that kids my age were listening to the fucking Greatful Dead and Crosby, Stills and Nash. We found some common ground because I liked the Beatles, but that was about it. My senior superlative was "always listening to her weirdo music."
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In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:14am
In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
Northern prairie smalltown garbage pit Trudeaustan = midwest US. Got it. :mrgreen:
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JennyB wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:21am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:14am
In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
Northern prairie smalltown garbage pit Trudeaustan = midwest US. Got it. :mrgreen:
Yeah, best I can tell, tho even less populated.

Slight aside here, but the older I get, my bitterness toward my childhood and adolescence only deepens. There's no hint of nostalgia as I age. I'm too aware that so many of my personal traits that I hate—cynicism; suspicion that people aren't being honest with me, especially when they're being nice; a reluctance to participate—are all things that I learned in school. Then again, those same experiences drew me to punk, to seek out weirdos, empathize with the marginalized, and be skeptical of the mainstream. Nevertheless, I have no affection for those years.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:14am
In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
That’s a good description. Some of the bands changed by the late 80s, but pretty spot on. I remember playing the US version of the first Clash LP (on cassette) for a friend in 8th grade because I knew he was into music and he told me it was awful. Then again, his favorite band at the time was Rush...but I was desperate to share and discuss with anyone I thought might be interested, but all too often I sold myself out and enthused about the Doors and Zep and so on. It wasn’t until I hit high school that I actually found a few more musical outsiders.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:54am
JennyB wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:21am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:14am
In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
Northern prairie smalltown garbage pit Trudeaustan = midwest US. Got it. :mrgreen:
Yeah, best I can tell, tho even less populated.

Slight aside here, but the older I get, my bitterness toward my childhood and adolescence only deepens. There's no hint of nostalgia as I age. I'm too aware that so many of my personal traits that I hate—cynicism; suspicion that people aren't being honest with me, especially when they're being nice; a reluctance to participate—are all things that I learned in school. Then again, those same experiences drew me to punk, to seek out weirdos, empathize with the marginalized, and be skeptical of the mainstream. Nevertheless, I have no affection for those years.
I feel exactly the same.
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JennyB wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 12:08pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:54am
JennyB wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:21am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2018, 11:14am
In my junior high and high school classes of the early to mid 80s in a northern prairie smalltown garbage pit, people listening to punk and "alternative" music were mostly nerdy loners. Those listening to the Doors and Zep and Deep Purple were the burn-outs who were killing time before getting busted for shoplifting or stealing a car and going away for a few years. Those who were actual musicians were into bands like the Beatles, Stones, and Who. The jocks were right into the popular metal of the day—Whitesnake, Def Lep, Crue, Priest, KISS—and, Jesus fuck, Rush. And the rest were casual top 40.
Northern prairie smalltown garbage pit Trudeaustan = midwest US. Got it. :mrgreen:
Yeah, best I can tell, tho even less populated.

Slight aside here, but the older I get, my bitterness toward my childhood and adolescence only deepens. There's no hint of nostalgia as I age. I'm too aware that so many of my personal traits that I hate—cynicism; suspicion that people aren't being honest with me, especially when they're being nice; a reluctance to participate—are all things that I learned in school. Then again, those same experiences drew me to punk, to seek out weirdos, empathize with the marginalized, and be skeptical of the mainstream. Nevertheless, I have no affection for those years.
I feel exactly the same.
I’d hate to ever think those years were the best of my life. Guess one thing I’ve learned is that nostalgia can be a trap. I find it easy to remember the good things while “forgetting” the bad things. I wouldn’t say I’m bitter towards those years, but I try to be realistic about them. I want to acknowledge the good with the bad and be mindful that those years and experiences made me who I am and prepared me to deal with life. I think those of us who were outsiders when we were kids - in many ways become the best adapted adults. I was one of the popular kids until about 6th grade - but as I became more of an individual - I stopped fitting in and that was often not fun, but I’m thankful for it. It taught me some great lessons that I can teach my kids.
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Echoing so much of what Doc, Jenny and Westway have said.

I was recently back in my hometown and saw a face I couldn't place but knew I'd get the name if I came across it. So I pulled up a list of my HS graduating class. I found her name but guess who was missing from that list, me. I find it kind of fitting in a lot of ways.

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