The GREAT Clash SURVIVOR Poll of 2019: RESULTS

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Marky Dread wrote:
02 May 2019, 9:42pm
BitterTom wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:27pm
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:25pm
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02 May 2019, 4:16pm
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 3:56pm


I'm like a broken record but it's always the production of White Man that marks it down for me. If only they'd had a top producer on board instead of letting 22 year old Mick do it.
Would you agree it has the same wimpy problems as Capital Radio One? That's how I've always seen them.

Though it might just be me that thinks it sounds 'wimpy'
Yeah, that recording of Capital Radio is a bit weak, though in its defence it was just meant as a giveaway. And they righted that wrong later. White Man is such a great and iconic song it deserved better. I don't necessarily think it sounds wimpy, more tinny and harsh than anything.
Agreed.
Wimpy? WTF (White Man) could kick most other songs in the nutbag from midnight to six.
Of all the live versions I've heard it comes crashing in with great power and energy and I love that but just don't get that feel on the studio version. Like I said wimpy is probably the wrong word but it just lacks something for me in its sound.

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BitterTom wrote:
03 May 2019, 1:26am
Marky Dread wrote:
02 May 2019, 9:42pm
BitterTom wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:27pm
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:25pm
BitterTom wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:16pm


Would you agree it has the same wimpy problems as Capital Radio One? That's how I've always seen them.

Though it might just be me that thinks it sounds 'wimpy'
Yeah, that recording of Capital Radio is a bit weak, though in its defence it was just meant as a giveaway. And they righted that wrong later. White Man is such a great and iconic song it deserved better. I don't necessarily think it sounds wimpy, more tinny and harsh than anything.
Agreed.
Wimpy? WTF (White Man) could kick most other songs in the nutbag from midnight to six.
Of all the live versions I've heard it comes crashing in with great power and energy and I love that but just don't get that feel on the studio version. Like I said wimpy is probably the wrong word but it just lacks something for me in its sound.
It was usually played a bit faster live, maybe that comes into it?

As I've said before, for sound quality and performance, my favourite version is on FHTE. Yeah, Terry on drums but he does a decent job and the other positives are numerous.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Yeah that's another factor.

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Heston wrote:
03 May 2019, 1:36am
BitterTom wrote:
03 May 2019, 1:26am
Marky Dread wrote:
02 May 2019, 9:42pm
BitterTom wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:27pm
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 4:25pm


Yeah, that recording of Capital Radio is a bit weak, though in its defence it was just meant as a giveaway. And they righted that wrong later. White Man is such a great and iconic song it deserved better. I don't necessarily think it sounds wimpy, more tinny and harsh than anything.
Agreed.
Wimpy? WTF (White Man) could kick most other songs in the nutbag from midnight to six.
Of all the live versions I've heard it comes crashing in with great power and energy and I love that but just don't get that feel on the studio version. Like I said wimpy is probably the wrong word but it just lacks something for me in its sound.
It was usually played a bit faster live, maybe that comes into it?

As I've said before, for sound quality and performance, my favourite version is on FHTE. Yeah, Terry on drums but he does a decent job and the other positives are numerous.
One downside on Topper's performances, the outro excluded, he pretty much always played the same fills. The drumming was usually pretty static (except those May/June 1980 outros) and hearing Terry play different fills is welcome. Same for Pete in 83 even if he was a bit busy.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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ROUND 25

The Finals - Round 2

I'm So Bored with the USA is OUT with 15 votes.

One More Time received 5 votes, Safe European Home received 2 votes and Rudie Can't Fail, Straight to Hell and Complete Control all picked up a single vote.

If a song isn't listed it's because it was already eliminated.
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ROUND 26

The Finals - Round 3

One More Time is OUT with 13 votes.

Safe European Home received 9 votes, Rudie Can't Fail and Complete Control each received 1 vote and Straight to Hell received 0 votes.

If a song isn't listed it's because it was already eliminated.
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ROUND 27

The Finals - Round 4

Safe European Home is OUT with 13 votes.

Complete Control received 6 votes, Straight to Hell received 5 votes and Rudie Can't Fail received 2 votes.

If a song isn't listed it's because it was already eliminated.
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ROUND 28

The Finals - Round 5

In an ultra-nailbiter, Straight to Hell is OUT with 10 votes.

Rudie Can't Fail and Complete Control both received 9 votes. This one was a photo finish, folks.

If a song isn't listed it's because it was already eliminated.
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ROUND 29

THE FINAL (Round 6)

Rudie Can't Fail is OUT with 17 votes.

That means Complete Control (13 votes) is the WINNER of the Finals and the OVERALL WINNER OF THE GREAT CLASH SURVIVOR POLL OF 2019! HOLY SHIT!

(And for one final time: if a song isn't listed it's because it was already eliminated.)
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