ROUND 6 - Combat Rock - Side Two

ROUND 6 - Combat Rock - Side Two

Poll ended at 11 Apr 2019, 1:31pm

Overpowered By Funk
6
21%
Atom Tan
2
7%
Sean Flynn
2
7%
Ghetto Defendant
1
3%
Inoculated City
4
14%
Death Is A Star
14
48%
 
Total votes: 29

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Re: ROUND 6 - Combat Rock - Side Two

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101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:54pm
msza2 wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:37pm
OBF has really grown on me over the years. I grew up in the 'CD Age' and always felt the segue from STH to OBF was too much until I realized OBF is a fresh start for the second half of the album.
Yes interesting point how CD’s interfered with tracklisting.
This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
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Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:54pm
msza2 wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:37pm
OBF has really grown on me over the years. I grew up in the 'CD Age' and always felt the segue from STH to OBF was too much until I realized OBF is a fresh start for the second half of the album.
Yes interesting point how CD’s interfered with tracklisting.
This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
Same order but you get 2 tracks never selected to be sequenced together plus you get a track chosen to be an opener (side 2) as opposed to being in the middle of a track list. Likewise a side closer.

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101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:42pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:54pm
msza2 wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:37pm
OBF has really grown on me over the years. I grew up in the 'CD Age' and always felt the segue from STH to OBF was too much until I realized OBF is a fresh start for the second half of the album.
Yes interesting point how CD’s interfered with tracklisting.
This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
Same order but you get 2 tracks never selected to be sequenced together plus you get a track chosen to be an opener (side 2) as opposed to being in the middle of a track list. Likewise a side closer.
Ok must be me then as I see no difference. Maybe as I owned the vinyl first I knew what was following what track. But I also bought the cd as soon as it was released and as it was 12 tracks it was fairly obvious it would've been 6 a side.
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Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
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Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:42pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:54pm
msza2 wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:37pm
OBF has really grown on me over the years. I grew up in the 'CD Age' and always felt the segue from STH to OBF was too much until I realized OBF is a fresh start for the second half of the album.
Yes interesting point how CD’s interfered with tracklisting.
This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
Same order but you get 2 tracks never selected to be sequenced together plus you get a track chosen to be an opener (side 2) as opposed to being in the middle of a track list. Likewise a side closer.
Ok must be me then as I see no difference. Maybe as I owned the vinyl first I knew what was following what track. But I also bought the cd as soon as it was released and as it was 12 tracks it was fairly obvious it would've been 6 a side.
I am sure STH was selected as track 6 to close side 1 not to be in middle of 12 tracks to be followed by OPBF?
If they were choosing a 12 track list it would be sequenced differently that’s all.

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JoseUnidos wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:50pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
The best song there. Some genuine melody that is lacking elsewhere on side 2.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
JoseUnidos wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:50pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
The best song there. Some genuine melody that is lacking elsewhere on side 2.
Atom Tan is melodic as hell.
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Heston wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
JoseUnidos wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:50pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
The best song there. Some genuine melody that is lacking elsewhere on side 2.
Inoculated City is great. I know someone who did a really great cover of that track. ;)
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101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:42pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 3:54pm


Yes interesting point how CD’s interfered with tracklisting.
This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
Same order but you get 2 tracks never selected to be sequenced together plus you get a track chosen to be an opener (side 2) as opposed to being in the middle of a track list. Likewise a side closer.
Ok must be me then as I see no difference. Maybe as I owned the vinyl first I knew what was following what track. But I also bought the cd as soon as it was released and as it was 12 tracks it was fairly obvious it would've been 6 a side.
I am sure STH was selected as track 6 to close side 1 not to be in middle of 12 tracks to be followed by OPBF?
If they were choosing a 12 track list it would be sequenced differently that’s all.
Yes of course I understand that mate. But then STH may have been chosen as track 12 on the cd. Do you think that when a previously released album gets a cd release would it have been beneficial to have a section of silence between side 1 and side 2?
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Re: ROUND 6 - Combat Rock - Side Two

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Silent Majority wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:56pm
Heston wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
JoseUnidos wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:50pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
The best song there. Some genuine melody that is lacking elsewhere on side 2.
Atom Tan is melodic as hell.
The verses are ok but sound stilted to me. The "chorus" is dumb as hell.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 5:01pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:56pm
Heston wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
JoseUnidos wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:50pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 1:45pm
I voted Death is a Star but I wouldn't exactly call it an injustice to see 3-4 of these other ones bounced either.
I agree, but I'll start w/ Inoculated City.
The best song there. Some genuine melody that is lacking elsewhere on side 2.
Atom Tan is melodic as hell.
The verses are ok but sound stilted to me. The "chorus" is dumb as hell.
I've just remixed it and it has much more of a guitar sound now and I quite like it. But I think lyrically it's trying to be too clever. I will post it once I've completed all of CR.
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Potential heretical opinion: Atom Tan is a lot of fun and I don’t dislike it at all, if I drop kayfabe in the GEER vs. CR debate.
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Wolter wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 5:33pm
Potential heretical opinion: Atom Tan is a lot of fun and I don’t dislike it at all, if I drop kayfabe in the GEER vs. CR debate.
I have a hard time keeping track of CR received wisdom on the middle-tier songs.
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Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 5:01pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:54pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:42pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 4:23pm


This baffles me it's in the same order just without a break. Seriously go make a cup of tea or something.
Same order but you get 2 tracks never selected to be sequenced together plus you get a track chosen to be an opener (side 2) as opposed to being in the middle of a track list. Likewise a side closer.
Ok must be me then as I see no difference. Maybe as I owned the vinyl first I knew what was following what track. But I also bought the cd as soon as it was released and as it was 12 tracks it was fairly obvious it would've been 6 a side.
I am sure STH was selected as track 6 to close side 1 not to be in middle of 12 tracks to be followed by OPBF?
If they were choosing a 12 track list it would be sequenced differently that’s all.
Yes of course I understand that mate. But then STH may have been chosen as track 12 on the cd. Do you think that when a previously released album gets a cd release would it have been beneficial to have a section of silence between side 1 and side 2?
No of course not, but as you say STH probably would have been track 12.
My point being a lot of thought is put into track listing and sequencing and what was chosen for the 2 sides of 6 track vinyl isn’t necessary right for 12 track CD.

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I do think that while if you’re familiar with the vinyl/cassette sides first the move to CD is easy, I do think the enforced breaking up of sides on vinyl changes your experience. I first heard S! on tape, which splits it the same as CDs, into two 18 song halves. It was my least favorite Clash album (outside of CTC, which I didn’t even know about). Then I got it on vinyl, and hearing it in 6 song bursts changed how I viewed it going forward.

Even to the point that I found the CD easier.
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