ROUND 18 - Sandinista! Semifinal

ROUND 18 - Sandinista! Semifinal

Poll ended at 25 Apr 2019, 2:23pm

Something About England
4
15%
Somebody Got Murdered
0
No votes
One More Time
2
8%
Up In Heaven (Not Only Here)
8
31%
Lets Go Crazy
9
35%
Washington Bullets
2
8%
Charlie Don't Surf
1
4%
 
Total votes: 26

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Double post
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:09pm
Just let this sink in you fucking heathens, Joe's finest moment as a lyricist...
A maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:09pm
Just let this sink in you fucking heathens, Joe's finest moment as a lyricist...
A maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Back off, or I'll blow the roof off—with sound!

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:09pm
Just let this sink in you fucking heathens, Joe's finest moment as a lyricist...
A maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Does it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?
WWK: I feel confident we haven't heard the last from Dr. Harvey Camel.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years
That's correct.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 7:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:09pm
Just let this sink in you fucking heathens, Joe's finest moment as a lyricist...
A maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Does it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?
The song is not nationalist at all, the opposite in fact.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 7:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:09pm
Just let this sink in you fucking heathens, Joe's finest moment as a lyricist...
A maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Does it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?
No, I know that. I was addressing the Canada part of the response. As in, I have no sentiment toward Canada or its past.
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Heston wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 7:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years
That's correct.
*snort* You love me and you know it.
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Where Doc hears maudlin sentiment, I hear barely simmering anger.
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Wolter wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:11pm
Where Doc hears maudlin sentiment, I hear barely simmering anger.
Bitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:17pm
Wolter wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:11pm
Where Doc hears maudlin sentiment, I hear barely simmering anger.
Bitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
I read it as a scathing in-character retort to the happy nostalgia for a nonexistent golden age of the Thatcher era, but I guess you can interpret it how you wish.
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Yeah, I'm with Wolt. I think it lands differently if it was released at a different time, but to me it sounds like an indictment of 80s thatcherism as much as anything.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
*Furiously scribbles notes in doctor medulla journal*

Hmmm... does NOT like Canadian nationalism, I see.

*Furrows brow*

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Wolter wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:17pm
Wolter wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:11pm
Where Doc hears maudlin sentiment, I hear barely simmering anger.
Bitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
I read it as a scathing in-character retort to the happy nostalgia for a nonexistent golden age of the Thatcher era, but I guess you can interpret it how you wish.
The thing is, I don't really disagree with you here. But I have to ask, “And …?” Calling bullshit on bullshit has value, but if there's no push forward, it's just wallowing in the long history of defeat and difficulty of the commoners. There is nothing here that calls for changing circumstances. I fail to see how that makes this a superior piece of work. It ain't wretched in the larger scheme of what popular music, then or now, offers up, but in the context of the Clash and their politics—which is what these votes limit us to—I fail to see what make this especially admirable. Joe did such better work.
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Flex wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 9:37pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 6:58pm
You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
*Furiously scribbles notes in doctor medulla journal*

Hmmm... does NOT like Canadian nationalism, I see.

*Furrows brow*

This will require DRAMATIC rewrites of my doctor medulla fursona fanfiction.
I don't think anyone's ever scribbled anything furiously about me. I feel blessed.
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