The Ultimate Album Track 11

[Mimi]

I honestly didn't mean to provoke. I know nothing of the cockney slang, so I always assumed it was an insult. I took it that way from the very beginning. Maybe I should have asked for clarification years ago.

[101Walterton]

I honestly didn't mean to provoke. I know nothing of the cockney slang, so I always assumed it was an insult. I took it that way from the very beginning. Maybe I should have asked for clarification years ago.

That’s all good and if I knew someone was offended I wouldn’t use it.
No different to using Bubble and Squeak for a Greek person there is no implication that they are in any way a plate of mashed up potatoes and vegetables it just rhymes.
I didn’t make this shit up it has been used for generations.

[Mimi]

I honestly didn't mean to provoke. I know nothing of the cockney slang, so I always assumed it was an insult. I took it that way from the very beginning. Maybe I should have asked for clarification years ago.

That’s all good and if I knew someone was offended I wouldn’t use it.
No different to using Bubble and Squeak for a Greek person there is no implication that they are in any way a plate of mashed up potatoes and vegetables it just rhymes.
I didn’t make this shit up it has been used for generations.

See, I always thought bubble and squeak was a dish.

My head hurts.

[Heston]

I thought the Limey/Septic knockabout pisstake stuff was fair game on here. I'll be wary in future then.

[Dr. Medulla]

I honestly didn't mean to provoke. I know nothing of the cockney slang, so I always assumed it was an insult. I took it that way from the very beginning. Maybe I should have asked for clarification years ago.

That’s all good and if I knew someone was offended I wouldn’t use it.
No different to using Bubble and Squeak for a Greek person there is no implication that they are in any way a plate of mashed up potatoes and vegetables it just rhymes.
I didn’t make this shit up it has been used for generations.

See, I always thought bubble and squeak was a dish.

My head hurts.

Me too (on both counts). I had no idea it was also a rhyming slang reference to Greeks.

[revbob]

We all give each other a good natured ribbing here and while I get annoyed with some things (intentionally excluding Paranoid ) I dont normally take shit personally here. And I hope nobody here takes me overly seriously although I know I have the tendency to come off as a dick at times and have pissed some people off.

[Wolter]

I thought the Limey/Septic knockabout pisstake stuff was fair game on here. I'll be wary in future then.

There’s a massive asymmetry between “navy eats a lot of limes to prevent scurvy” and “festering pile of human feces.”

[Wolter]

It may just be me and that’s fine. But it sucks and I hate it. And if it weren’t meant offensively, it would’ve been something like Sherman, or propane, or Scuba, or any of a number of other things that aren’t that.

[101Walterton]

I honestly didn't mean to provoke. I know nothing of the cockney slang, so I always assumed it was an insult. I took it that way from the very beginning. Maybe I should have asked for clarification years ago.

That’s all good and if I knew someone was offended I wouldn’t use it.
No different to using Bubble and Squeak for a Greek person there is no implication that they are in any way a plate of mashed up potatoes and vegetables it just rhymes.
I didn’t make this shit up it has been used for generations.

See, I always thought bubble and squeak was a dish.

My head hurts.

Me too (on both counts). I had no idea it was also a rhyming slang reference to Greeks.

Bubble and Squeak is a meal made from leftovers usually a Sunday roast.
The potatoes and vegetables are mashed together then fried.
The only connection to Greek people is the rhyme.

[Dr. Medulla]

Bubble and Squeak is a meal made from leftovers usually a Sunday roast.
The potatoes and vegetables are mashed together then fried.
The only connection to Greek people is the rhyme.

Yeah, I understood it as fried scraps. That it has a second life as cockney rhyming slang was a revelation.

[101Walterton]

It may just be me and that’s fine. But it sucks and I hate it. And if it weren’t meant offensively, it would’ve been something like Sherman, or propane, or Scuba, or any of a number of other things that aren’t that.

I won’t use it again.

To clarify your point Sherman Tank = bank

Propane and scuba tanks would not have been around (or terms used) in the London Street markets where this originates.

[Mimi]

Maybe it was how I grew up, but I'm not very good with jokingly insulting someone. A lot of times I can't read people correctly anyway, so I don't know, about 99% of the time, if someone is taking the piss or not.

[Wolter]

Almost every etymology site that is dictionary-based and not crowd sourced includes the words “derogatory” or “pejorative.” Just putting that out there. Since, you know...it’s a thing that’s full of shit.

[101Walterton]

Maybe it was how I grew up, but I'm not very good with jokingly insulting someone. A lot of times I can't read people correctly anyway, so I don't know, about 99% of the time, if someone is taking the piss or not.

So rhyming slang originated in London streets as a way of communicating in code to disguise what is being said (from non traders / Police etc). In the past it was a whole language and they would talk in sentences however nowadays it is just words that are used.
Was never any insult either joking or otherwise it was just a way of disguising what you were talking about snd the more obscure the better.

[Wolter]

Hidden meanings are not exclusive of insulting.