The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 1 Track 2 Vote - Round 3

S1T2 - Final Round

Poll ended at 13 Jul 2020, 6:54pm

ABBA, "Dancing Queen"
7
37%
The Breeders, "Cannonball"
12
63%
 
Total votes: 19

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gkbill wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 9:41pm
Heston wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 7:13pm
I will deflect Flex's first point about the intro. It was deliberately done like that to simulate the feeling of just walking into a club and the record is already playing. Not to mention the fabulous piano glissando at the start. Then they come in with not the chorus but the second half of the chorus. A totally nifty move because then it all resolves to the home key as the verse starts and you immediately feel the tension dissipate.
Hello,

I'm not sure if you mean tension in some musical structure sense, but tension is not something I sense when listening to Dancing Queen. I will admit to not being much of an ABBA fan but I really don't get any tension, suspense, or any other emotion really - the song's about dancing and that's about it. Enlighten me.
I do just mean in a musical sense. The song doesn't start in its home key so you get that sense of contentment when it finally resolves to it.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 7:09pm
101Walterton wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 6:56pm
I hope this is gonna be a double album 😂
I actually have secret plans and you're not far off … :shifty:
Only Paranoid covers on the second LP, please.

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Olaf wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 6:31am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 7:09pm
101Walterton wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 6:56pm
I hope this is gonna be a double album 😂
I actually have secret plans and you're not far off … :shifty:
Only Paranoid covers on the second LP, please.
I, sir, am just a humble servant of the game players. Only you can prevent forest fires and only you can put "Paranoid" on the album.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 6:42am
Olaf wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 6:31am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 7:09pm
101Walterton wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 6:56pm
I hope this is gonna be a double album 😂
I actually have secret plans and you're not far off … :shifty:
Only Paranoid covers on the second LP, please.
I, sir, am just a humble servant of the game players. Only you can prevent forest fires and only you can put "Paranoid" on the album.
I thought forest fires counted as instrumentals and weren't allowed.

To be honest, Paranoid pretty much looks like a lost cause. I'm trying to put Da Da Da on the album now.

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Olaf wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 7:18am
I thought forest fires counted as instrumentals and weren't allowed.
Depends on whether the screaming of those being burned alive is predominantly female. And, of course, it has to appear on an album. The rules cover this, people!
To be honest, Paranoid pretty much looks like a lost cause. I'm trying to put Da Da Da on the album now.
I was disappointed that you didn't make a push for Nena with S1T1. She basically stopped WWIII, you know.
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Just 15 votes and Dairy Queen isn't even getting the 7 it got in the last round...

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revbob wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 8:45am
Just 15 votes and Dairy Queen isn't even getting the 7 it got in the last round...
Assuming all the Round 2 voters chime in in the next ten hours, and no new voters show up, that's still 6 votes outstanding, with 11 needed to win.
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revbob wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 8:45am
Just 15 votes and Dairy Queen isn't even getting the 7 it got in the last round...
I've given up trying to educate people around here.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Hes, I forgot to reply to your question awhile back, but wife thought I was crazy for siding with the Breeders. She also didn't really remember the song which was an instant boner killer for me. Her basic argument was that Dancing Queen is a legendary song and Cannonball isn't.

Relistened to both songs now. The main epiphany I had was that I remembered Cannonball but hadn't heard it in a very long time and totally forgot how fucking cool the song is. As noted earlier - big hooks, a screamy-distorted part, the rest that Flex mentioned, weird fun stuff - the "a-wooo" intro, aforementioned whistle, percussion, etc. the song is just so fucking cool. Dancing Queen has some unorthodox parts that I never really noticed - the intro we've been discussing recently, but the chord structure is also a lot more interesting than I had expected. The other main strength is the chorus melody rising to the "tamborine oh yeah" line which is just so so good. That being said, it's not enough for me, particularly given what I go for in a song.
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Yeah I have to with what I like as that is the point of this exercise right?

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Olaf wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 6:31am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 7:09pm
101Walterton wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 6:56pm
I hope this is gonna be a double album 😂
I actually have secret plans and you're not far off … :shifty:
Only Paranoid covers on the second LP, please.
The wife and I got drunk & high on Friday or Saturday night and she drummed as I played guitar on covers of both Paranoid (her singing) & Rudie Can't Fail (me singing). I know I'm usually quick to share my less than mediocre musical experiments, but these recording are gonna be lost on the tube, as it were.
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Quite appropriately, yet accidentally, IMCT has decided that 2020 is the year of "Paranoid."
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 10:55am
Quite appropriately, yet accidentally, IMCT has decided that 2020 is the year of "Paranoid."
Paranoid: Now More Than Ever.

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Heston wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 2:44am
gkbill wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 9:41pm
Heston wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 7:13pm
I will deflect Flex's first point about the intro. It was deliberately done like that to simulate the feeling of just walking into a club and the record is already playing. Not to mention the fabulous piano glissando at the start. Then they come in with not the chorus but the second half of the chorus. A totally nifty move because then it all resolves to the home key as the verse starts and you immediately feel the tension dissipate.
Hello,

I'm not sure if you mean tension in some musical structure sense, but tension is not something I sense when listening to Dancing Queen. I will admit to not being much of an ABBA fan but I really don't get any tension, suspense, or any other emotion really - the song's about dancing and that's about it. Enlighten me.
I do just mean in a musical sense. The song doesn't start in its home key so you get that sense of contentment when it finally resolves to it.
Hello,

Understood. Thanks for kindly addressing my musical ignorance (but I still know what I like!).

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