The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 1 Track 5 Vote - Round 2

Side 1, Track 5 - Round 2

Poll ended at 05 Aug 2020, 6:59am

Althea & Donna, "Uptown Top Ranking"
10
53%
Amy Winehouse, "Back to Black"
3
16%
Kate Bush, "Cloudbusting"
3
16%
The Supremes, "Come See About Me"
3
16%
 
Total votes: 19

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Another thing to remember is this is, after all, a Clash board. Uptown Top Ranking is the only song from that era here. I certainly have a nostalgic connection to it having heard it everywhere as a kid. Will be the same with a few others I should imagine.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:35pm
Another thing to remember is this is, after all, a Clash board. Uptown Top Ranking is the only song from that era here. I certainly have a nostalgic connection to it having heard it everywhere as a kid. Will be the same with a few others I should imagine.
Yes definitely.

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Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 5:50pm
Just listened to it like three times in a row and I just don't get it. Like I said, it's fine, the music is great and there is some charm to the vocals, but the melody isn't particularly strong and they aren't very good singers. I guess that's part of the charm, but this running away with this competition is baffling. Back to Black is seriously 10 times the song Uptown Top Ranking is in melody and performance. Lyrics are like the tenth thing I look at in a song and I'm just starting to look at UTR's. They do have a nice swagger and seem to be a strong feature. It's also hard to compare songs that are so lyrically different.
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:10pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 5:50pm
Just listened to it like three times in a row and I just don't get it. Like I said, it's fine, the music is great and there is some charm to the vocals, but the melody isn't particularly strong and they aren't very good singers. I guess that's part of the charm, but this running away with this competition is baffling. Back to Black is seriously 10 times the song Uptown Top Ranking is in melody and performance. Lyrics are like the tenth thing I look at in a song and I'm just starting to look at UTR's. They do have a nice swagger and seem to be a strong feature. It's also hard to compare songs that are so lyrically different.
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:19pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:10pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 5:50pm
Just listened to it like three times in a row and I just don't get it. Like I said, it's fine, the music is great and there is some charm to the vocals, but the melody isn't particularly strong and they aren't very good singers. I guess that's part of the charm, but this running away with this competition is baffling. Back to Black is seriously 10 times the song Uptown Top Ranking is in melody and performance. Lyrics are like the tenth thing I look at in a song and I'm just starting to look at UTR's. They do have a nice swagger and seem to be a strong feature. It's also hard to compare songs that are so lyrically different.
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
Didn't Lily Allen basically steal it for Smile a few years back and have a worldwide hit with it?
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:19pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:10pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 5:50pm
Just listened to it like three times in a row and I just don't get it. Like I said, it's fine, the music is great and there is some charm to the vocals, but the melody isn't particularly strong and they aren't very good singers. I guess that's part of the charm, but this running away with this competition is baffling. Back to Black is seriously 10 times the song Uptown Top Ranking is in melody and performance. Lyrics are like the tenth thing I look at in a song and I'm just starting to look at UTR's. They do have a nice swagger and seem to be a strong feature. It's also hard to compare songs that are so lyrically different.
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
Didn't Lily Allen basically steal it for Smile a few years back and have a worldwide hit with it?
I know the Lilly Allen song but never really paid that much attention to it.
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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:29pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:19pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:10pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm


Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
Didn't Lily Allen basically steal it for Smile a few years back and have a worldwide hit with it?
I know the Lilly Allen song but never really paid that much attention to it.
I can’t hear it it in the Lilly Allen song :huh:
Some of her other steals have been obvious.

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matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 5:50pm
Just listened to it like three times in a row and I just don't get it. Like I said, it's fine, the music is great and there is some charm to the vocals, but the melody isn't particularly strong and they aren't very good singers. I guess that's part of the charm, but this running away with this competition is baffling. Back to Black is seriously 10 times the song Uptown Top Ranking is in melody and performance. Lyrics are like the tenth thing I look at in a song and I'm just starting to look at UTR's. They do have a nice swagger and seem to be a strong feature. It's also hard to compare songs that are so lyrically different.
Im with Hoy.

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It isnt a bad song but doesn't do much for me.

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101Walterton wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:45pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:29pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:19pm
matedog wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:10pm


Of course not. Hence Louie Louie being a classic. This all gets muddled, particularly when nostalgia comes into play.
Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
Didn't Lily Allen basically steal it for Smile a few years back and have a worldwide hit with it?
I know the Lilly Allen song but never really paid that much attention to it.
I can’t hear it it in the Lilly Allen song :huh:
Some of her other steals have been obvious.
A search of the two songs together has just brought up quite a few mentions of the similarity.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 8:39pm
101Walterton wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:45pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:29pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 7:19pm


Hmmm dunno about the nostalgia thing. It's a great tune and it's being played by some of the biggest names in reggae. If it were released it would be a sure fire number 1.
Didn't Lily Allen basically steal it for Smile a few years back and have a worldwide hit with it?
I know the Lilly Allen song but never really paid that much attention to it.
I can’t hear it it in the Lilly Allen song :huh:
Some of her other steals have been obvious.
A search of the two songs together has just brought up quite a few mentions of the similarity.
It's...a rip off. ;)
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Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
major Fleston going on here at the expense of Floy AND FlexBob.

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Flex wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 8:54pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
major Fleston going on here at the expense of Floy AND FlexBob.

what a fucked up time to be alive
All the confirmation I need.
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Flex wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 8:54pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
major Fleston going on here at the expense of Floy AND FlexBob.

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Are these the sort of alliances you really want to be making?

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Flex wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 8:54pm
Heston wrote:
03 Aug 2020, 6:03pm
Does a song just rest on melody and lyrics though? Or is the whole vibe the thing that counts? That imperceptible thing which marks out a great record. There's thousands of songs with pretty, well-constructed melodies which I despise. Then there's songs which rant away on one note which are superb.
major Fleston going on here at the expense of Floy AND FlexBob.

what a fucked up time to be alive
I feel weird being in this unholy alliance.
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I just listened to it again but this time as just background music and Im warming up to it. Its no Paranoid but I am starting to see the appeal.

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