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Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:25pm
by Olaf
AudioAmmunition wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:24pm
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:16pm
Anyone ever bothered to check "They Don't Know"? Can't find any vinyl/cassette version where it's track 2. That's either "Bobby's Girl" or "Long Live Love."
This could get interesting!
Wally's sitting back and enjoying this...

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:28pm
by Marky Dread
Heston wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 1:32pm
Why the intense dislike for Tracey, Marky? I don't like her as a comedienne but I thought she had a couple of good songs. Breakaway is ace and Sunglasses wasn't a bad tune.
I wouldn't call it intense. But I've just never liked her. I first remember her from the programme "A Kick Up the 80s". Which was great but I never found her funny at all. She just doesn't appeal. Her music was ok "Breakaway" and "Terry" were good songs but I don't like the sound of her voice.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:31pm
by Dr. Medulla
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:16pm
Anyone ever bothered to check "They Don't Know"? Can't find any vinyl/cassette version where it's track 2. That's either "Bobby's Girl" or "Long Live Love."
ELECTION SCANDAL / HESTON FOUND GUILTY OF FRAUD / "STUPID GIRL" DECLARED WINNER

Went thru all the lp/cassette versions on discogs, and "They Don't Know" is either Side 2, Track 3 (usually) or Side 1, Track 2. It is hereby disqualified and "Stupid Girl" is declared the winner. Get yourself a good lawyer, Heston.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:32pm
by Heston
AudioAmmunition wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:24pm
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:16pm
Anyone ever bothered to check "They Don't Know"? Can't find any vinyl/cassette version where it's track 2. That's either "Bobby's Girl" or "Long Live Love."
This could get interesting!
Yes, it could. :shifty:

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:40pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:31pm
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:16pm
Anyone ever bothered to check "They Don't Know"? Can't find any vinyl/cassette version where it's track 2. That's either "Bobby's Girl" or "Long Live Love."
ELECTION SCANDAL / HESTON FOUND GUILTY OF FRAUD / "STUPID GIRL" DECLARED WINNER

Went thru all the lp/cassette versions on discogs, and "They Don't Know" is either Side 2, Track 3 (usually) or Side 1, Track 2. It is hereby disqualified and "Stupid Girl" is declared the winner. Get yourself a good lawyer, Heston.
So glad now I didn't waste any time writing pages and pages on the virtues of "Stupid Girl". I only hope that all the entries thus far have been checked thoroughly. :rolleyes:

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
by 101Walterton
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:


Track listing Edit

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Breakaway"
Jackie DeShannonSharon Sheeley
2:36
2. "Long Live Love" Chris Andrews 2:48
3. "Shattered" Wayne Carson Thompson 2:44
4. "Oh, What a Night"
Marvin JuniorJohnny Funches
2:33
5. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" Norman Dolph 3:18
6. "Move Over Darling"
Joe LubinTerry Melcher
2:32
7. "Bobby's Girl"
Henry HoffmanGary Klein
2:58
8. "They Don't Know" Kirsty MacColl 2:59
9. "(I'm Always Touched by Your) Presence Dear" Gary Valentine 2:45
10. "You Broke My Heart in 17 Places" MacColl 2:52
11. "I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten" Clive Westlake 3:30

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:51pm
by Heston
101Walterton wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:


Track listing Edit

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Breakaway"
Jackie DeShannonSharon Sheeley
2:36
2. "Long Live Love" Chris Andrews 2:48
3. "Shattered" Wayne Carson Thompson 2:44
4. "Oh, What a Night"
Marvin JuniorJohnny Funches
2:33
5. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" Norman Dolph 3:18
6. "Move Over Darling"
Joe LubinTerry Melcher
2:32
7. "Bobby's Girl"
Henry HoffmanGary Klein
2:58
8. "They Don't Know" Kirsty MacColl 2:59
9. "(I'm Always Touched by Your) Presence Dear" Gary Valentine 2:45
10. "You Broke My Heart in 17 Places" MacColl 2:52
11. "I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten" Clive Westlake 3:30
Yeah, that's how I interpreted it.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:54pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:


Track listing Edit

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Breakaway"
Jackie DeShannonSharon Sheeley
2:36
2. "Long Live Love" Chris Andrews 2:48
3. "Shattered" Wayne Carson Thompson 2:44
4. "Oh, What a Night"
Marvin JuniorJohnny Funches
2:33
5. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" Norman Dolph 3:18
6. "Move Over Darling"
Joe LubinTerry Melcher
2:32
7. "Bobby's Girl"
Henry HoffmanGary Klein
2:58
8. "They Don't Know" Kirsty MacColl 2:59
9. "(I'm Always Touched by Your) Presence Dear" Gary Valentine 2:45
10. "You Broke My Heart in 17 Places" MacColl 2:52
11. "I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten" Clive Westlake 3:30
Was there a vinyl counterpart though. If not it's not relevant. I couldn't find any vinyl edition where it's track 2.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 4:54pm
by Mimi
Damn those hanging chads.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:00pm
by oliver
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:31pm
It is hereby disqualified
Altogether or from this round?

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:04pm
by Olaf
101Walterton wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:


Track listing Edit

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Breakaway"
Jackie DeShannonSharon Sheeley
2:36
2. "Long Live Love" Chris Andrews 2:48
3. "Shattered" Wayne Carson Thompson 2:44
4. "Oh, What a Night"
Marvin JuniorJohnny Funches
2:33
5. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" Norman Dolph 3:18
6. "Move Over Darling"
Joe LubinTerry Melcher
2:32
7. "Bobby's Girl"
Henry HoffmanGary Klein
2:58
8. "They Don't Know" Kirsty MacColl 2:59
9. "(I'm Always Touched by Your) Presence Dear" Gary Valentine 2:45
10. "You Broke My Heart in 17 Places" MacColl 2:52
11. "I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten" Clive Westlake 3:30


7b. Vinyl or cassette track listings are the standard sources. If there is no vinyl or cassette version, “side two” will consider tracks 7–12 on the cd version. Also see #7f.

7f. In any dispute over track listing eligibility or whether a release is cd-only, discogs.com will be the standard for confirmation. If you think your source is cd-only, check there before nominating.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:05pm
by Dr. Medulla
101Walterton wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:
CD's only count if there's no vinyl or cassette release. Those are always the preferred format. And it's not S2T2 on any vinyl/cassette edition on discogs.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:06pm
by Dr. Medulla
oliver wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:31pm
It is hereby disqualified
Altogether or from this round?
Heston's already nominated it for S2T3, for which it is still eligible. Whether people want to vote for it is another matter.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:08pm
by Dr. Medulla
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:31pm
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:16pm
Anyone ever bothered to check "They Don't Know"? Can't find any vinyl/cassette version where it's track 2. That's either "Bobby's Girl" or "Long Live Love."
ELECTION SCANDAL / HESTON FOUND GUILTY OF FRAUD / "STUPID GIRL" DECLARED WINNER

Went thru all the lp/cassette versions on discogs, and "They Don't Know" is either Side 2, Track 3 (usually) or Side 1, Track 2. It is hereby disqualified and "Stupid Girl" is declared the winner. Get yourself a good lawyer, Heston.
So glad now I didn't waste any time writing pages and pages on the virtues of "Stupid Girl". I only hope that all the entries thus far have been checked thoroughly. :rolleyes:
I always assume good faith by nominators. I'm not going to check people's songs, but will do the legwork if questions are raised. I mean, c'mon, man, the snark ain't deserved here.

Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 2 Vote - (The Real) Round 3

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 5:08pm
by 101Walterton
Olaf wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 5:04pm
101Walterton wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 4:44pm
TDK was track 8 on an 11 track CD album You Broke My Heart in 17 Places which would make it side 2 track 2 on an vinyl album release:


Track listing Edit

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Breakaway"
Jackie DeShannonSharon Sheeley
2:36
2. "Long Live Love" Chris Andrews 2:48
3. "Shattered" Wayne Carson Thompson 2:44
4. "Oh, What a Night"
Marvin JuniorJohnny Funches
2:33
5. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" Norman Dolph 3:18
6. "Move Over Darling"
Joe LubinTerry Melcher
2:32
7. "Bobby's Girl"
Henry HoffmanGary Klein
2:58
8. "They Don't Know" Kirsty MacColl 2:59
9. "(I'm Always Touched by Your) Presence Dear" Gary Valentine 2:45
10. "You Broke My Heart in 17 Places" MacColl 2:52
11. "I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten" Clive Westlake 3:30


7b. Vinyl or cassette track listings are the standard sources. If there is no vinyl or cassette version, “side two” will consider tracks 7–12 on the cd version. Also see #7f.

7f. In any dispute over track listing eligibility or whether a release is cd-only, discogs.com will be the standard for confirmation. If you think your source is cd-only, check there before nominating.
It was originally released on CD album so that is original source.
Rules state track 8 on CD album is side 2 track 2.
What is the dispute or am I being Paranoid.