The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
- Dr. Medulla
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The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
Let me just say that it's shameful that "Y Control" didn't advance. I was almost tempted to cheat and vote so as to allow it to move on. Hoy brought the goods here, people.
That said, there's still some solid choices to vote for, so goodness hasn't been completed extinguished.
That said, there's still some solid choices to vote for, so goodness hasn't been completed extinguished.
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I thought it was terrible.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 2:10pmLet me just say that it's shameful that "Y Control" didn't advance. I was almost tempted to cheat and vote so as to allow it to move on. Hoy brought the goods here, people.
That said, there's still some solid choices to vote for, so goodness hasn't been completed extinguished.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Of course you did. Find the nearest corner and stand in it until we let you return.Heston wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 2:14pmI thought it was terrible.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 2:10pmLet me just say that it's shameful that "Y Control" didn't advance. I was almost tempted to cheat and vote so as to allow it to move on. Hoy brought the goods here, people.
That said, there's still some solid choices to vote for, so goodness hasn't been completed extinguished.
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Watch this backfire on me by spelling it out: I really liked the YYYs track but I think it would pull votes from some of the people most likely to vote Interrupters, so it had to go. Voted Interrupters. The others are all good songs, but I want to see something outside the Established Canon or non-billboard-charter get on this thing, and Interrupters are as good a place as any to mount that effort. They're (fairly) new, exciting as hell, and on the upswing. The Interrupters are on the cusp of where the YYYs were like 10 or 15 years ago, imho. Plus, they're carrying the torch for the band this whole site was founded for and it'd be awesome to see them get the nod here. They really, really should be the more obscure/non-established cut that can bring us all together for a round. I'm making the call for board unity and for us to embrace the spirit of the clash this round by voting for their heir apparent, basically.
These other songs are all great too, tho.
These other songs are all great too, tho.
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I voted for the Interrupters but they have much better songs.
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What was that then?
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Hello,
One the unique features to this kind of poll is results are dependent on where a track falls on an album and where other great tracks fall - who is it up against? It's like speaking at a conference - sometimes the crowd you draw is totally dependent on who you're up against.
One the unique features to this kind of poll is results are dependent on where a track falls on an album and where other great tracks fall - who is it up against? It's like speaking at a conference - sometimes the crowd you draw is totally dependent on who you're up against.
Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
Id have to go back and look. I think I nominated 2 actually, Prosecutor and She's Kerosene. Gbkill nominated one too. I had plans to nominate Jenny Drinks and perhaps still will.
I may have been a bit dickish when I said gimmick song.
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Doc made a very important distinction last round that I keep coming back to, which is that the goal in the round isn't necessarily to pick the best song by an artist, but the best song in the given track slot. So even if there's a "better song" in someone's catalog, that isn't necessarily a penalty. Maybe there's a better song, but is it better than its competition for that specific track position? That's what is being assessed, not just picking the best song a band made. It's a really unusual way of assessing songs, which is part of the point and intrigue of the exercise. Ideally, it leads to a few oddball inclusions of songs you wouldn't otherwise guess would get a pick.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
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Yeah, I get that. Just disappointed cos I would have nominated "Gave You Everything" but too late now.Flex wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 3:24pmDoc made a very important distinction last round that I keep coming back to, which is that the goal in the round isn't necessarily to pick the best song by an artist, but the best song in the given track slot. So even if there's a "better song" in someone's catalog, that isn't necessarily a penalty. Maybe there's a better song, but is it better than its competition for that specific track position? That's what is being assessed, not just picking the best song a band made. It's a really unusual way of assessing songs, which is part of the point and intrigue of the exercise. Ideally, it leads to a few oddball inclusions of songs you wouldn't otherwise guess would get a pick.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
A great Fever to Tell track losing to a solid if uninspired Rancid cover band is baffling to me. But then again, pretty much every poll result here is baffling to me.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I think that undersells the songwriting chops of the Interrupters. Sure, it's produced in the Hellcat house style, but we wouldn't hold that against a Motown or Stax tune or what-have-you. For some (like me), it's actually a strength of the song. The thing about the Interrupters is that the band minus Aimee is actually sort of a punk and ska equivalent of like the wrecking crew or something. They actually helped write and play all these Hellcat bands tunes in the studio that helped give 'em the house sound we're recognizing. And adding Aimee into the mix gave them their own identity and lead singer to go be their own thing. It's quite cool, imho.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
I'm just being snarky since I lost, but I didn't know that about the backing band. I actually quite enjoyed the stuff I've listened to thus far. "Can't Be Trusted" made my Matey's World playlist upon one or two listens.Flex wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 4:59pmI think that undersells the songwriting chops of the Interrupters. Sure, it's produced in the Hellcat house style, but we wouldn't hold that against a Motown or Stax tune or what-have-you. For some (like me), it's actually a strength of the song. The thing about the Interrupters is that the band minus Aimee is actually sort of a punk and ska equivalent of like the wrecking crew or something. They actually helped write and play all these Hellcat bands tunes in the studio that helped give 'em the house sound we're recognizing. And adding Aimee into the mix gave them their own identity and lead singer to go be their own thing. It's quite cool, imho.
If they win, this will continue to be a hell of a playlist. Way more interesting than the other one.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Ultimate Women's Album - Side 2 Track 3 Vote - Round 2
To clarify, I think Y Control is so much more of an exciting and interesting song. The guitar riffs are really unorthodox and Brian Chase is a ridiculously good drummer and really shines on here with those syncopated accents on the 16th note hi hats and four on the floor bass drums, but isn't too much of a muso to throw in the 60s rock beat ("That Thing You Do" beat if you will). Karen doesn't shine as much on this one since it's in her lower, weaker register, but that "Wish I could buy back the woman you stole" is a great lyric.
Anyway, why am I arguing for this after it already lost?
Anyway, why am I arguing for this after it already lost?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.