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Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 1:46pm
by Kory
Voting Getting Better until it's gone because of its overplayed history in commercials.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 2:01pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:46pm
Voting Getting Better until it's gone because of its overplayed history in commercials.
I've come to hate The Turtles' "Happy Together" for the same reason. I can't hear it without thinking I need cookies, a new car, tampons, anti-anxiety drugs, and athlete's foot spray.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 2:31pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 2:01pm
Kory wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:46pm
Voting Getting Better until it's gone because of its overplayed history in commercials.
I've come to hate The Turtles' "Happy Together" for the same reason. I can't hear it without thinking I need cookies, a new car, tampons, anti-anxiety drugs, and athlete's foot spray.
Yeah that's another big one, along with "Everyday People" by Sly, and "Signed, Sealed, Delivered," by Stevie Wonder. I hate songs more if they were in a car commercial.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 2:44pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 2:01pm
Kory wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:46pm
Voting Getting Better until it's gone because of its overplayed history in commercials.
I've come to hate The Turtles' "Happy Together" for the same reason. I can't hear it without thinking I need cookies, a new car, tampons, anti-anxiety drugs, and athlete's foot spray.
I’m twitter friends with Howard Kalyan’s daughter, so I am glad yo know every time it plays her family makes like 0.000008 cents.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 2:48pm
by Marky Dread
Kory wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 2:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 2:01pm
Kory wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:46pm
Voting Getting Better until it's gone because of its overplayed history in commercials.
I've come to hate The Turtles' "Happy Together" for the same reason. I can't hear it without thinking I need cookies, a new car, tampons, anti-anxiety drugs, and athlete's foot spray.
Yeah that's another big one, along with "Everyday People" by Sly, and "Signed, Sealed, Delivered," by Stevie Wonder. I hate songs more if they were in a car commercial.
Stick this in any advert you like cause I ain't hating on it.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 2:50pm
by WestwayKid
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:38pm
WestwayKid wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:36pm
Silent Majority wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:16pm
I bloody Kite. In Liverpool, I saw a repro of the original Victorian circus poster that Lennon got the lyrics off and if it had been under a tenner I would have got the only Fab merch that I ever would have. The mood, sound, melody, and story of the song are one of the best things on Sgt Pepper.
Well said. The melody itself is fascinating, winding in and out like a serpent. George Martin's production work is some of his best ever, translating Lennon's wishes (it's been said that while Paul would be very precise about what he wanted, John was often far more vague) into something both whimsical and creepy.
Hard not to see that Lennon was a proponent of happy accidents.
I think his direction to Martin was that he "wanted to smell the sawdust" which I think Martin made happen (as he often did).

The angry Lennon of the early 70's had some unkind words for George Martin:

"[Dick James] is another one of those people, who think they made us. They didn't. I'd like to hear Dick James' music and I'd like to hear George Martin's music, please, just play me some."

"When people ask me questions about 'What did George Martin really do for you?,' I have only one answer, 'What does he do now?' I noticed you (Paul) had no answer for that! It's not a putdown, it's the truth."

But then a year later:

George Martin made us what we were in the studio. He helped us develop a language to talk to other musicians."

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:13pm
by BitterTom
WaLHFMF. It's good but the others are better.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
by JennyB
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:24pm
by Dr. Medulla
WestwayKid wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 2:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:38pm
WestwayKid wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:36pm
Silent Majority wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 1:16pm
I bloody Kite. In Liverpool, I saw a repro of the original Victorian circus poster that Lennon got the lyrics off and if it had been under a tenner I would have got the only Fab merch that I ever would have. The mood, sound, melody, and story of the song are one of the best things on Sgt Pepper.
Well said. The melody itself is fascinating, winding in and out like a serpent. George Martin's production work is some of his best ever, translating Lennon's wishes (it's been said that while Paul would be very precise about what he wanted, John was often far more vague) into something both whimsical and creepy.
Hard not to see that Lennon was a proponent of happy accidents.
I think his direction to Martin was that he "wanted to smell the sawdust" which I think Martin made happen (as he often did).

The angry Lennon of the early 70's had some unkind words for George Martin:

"[Dick James] is another one of those people, who think they made us. They didn't. I'd like to hear Dick James' music and I'd like to hear George Martin's music, please, just play me some."

"When people ask me questions about 'What did George Martin really do for you?,' I have only one answer, 'What does he do now?' I noticed you (Paul) had no answer for that! It's not a putdown, it's the truth."

But then a year later:

George Martin made us what we were in the studio. He helped us develop a language to talk to other musicians."
Lennon interviews in the early 70s are like Joe interviews in 84/85. I vaguely recall him saying George petulantly told Paul and him, "My songs are as good as yours," to which John said, "Then why weren't they on the albums?" Just embarrassing bitterness.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:26pm
by Dr. Medulla
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Unabashed, no. But it's one of the most ambitious songs on the album, one that comes closer to justifying the hype.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:28pm
by Heston
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:26pm
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Unabashed, no. But it's one of the most ambitious songs on the album, one that comes closer to justifying the hype.
Yeah taking circus music to a new dimension.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:29pm
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:26pm
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Unabashed, no. But it's one of the most ambitious songs on the album, one that comes closer to justifying the hype.
It's just so whimsical! Last time we were in Vegas, we say the Cirque de Soleil Love show and I really wanted to brush it off as cheese, but it was so good. And it made me really appreciate Kite.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 3:32pm
by Dr. Medulla
Heston wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:26pm
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Unabashed, no. But it's one of the most ambitious songs on the album, one that comes closer to justifying the hype.
Yeah taking circus music to a new dimension.
Twisted childhood dimensions. I like twisted.
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:29pm
It's just so whimsical! Last time we were in Vegas, we say the Cirque de Soleil Love show and I really wanted to brush it off as cheese, but it was so good. And it made me really appreciate Kite.
Superficially whimsical, I'd say. The whole thing sounds like a kaleidoscopic waking dream/nightmare to me. If Lucy is a beautifully revelatory acid trip, Kite is shit going scary.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 4:03pm
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:32pm
Heston wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:26pm
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Unabashed, no. But it's one of the most ambitious songs on the album, one that comes closer to justifying the hype.
Yeah taking circus music to a new dimension.
Twisted childhood dimensions. I like twisted.
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:29pm
It's just so whimsical! Last time we were in Vegas, we say the Cirque de Soleil Love show and I really wanted to brush it off as cheese, but it was so good. And it made me really appreciate Kite.
Superficially whimsical, I'd say. The whole thing sounds like a kaleidoscopic waking dream/nightmare to me. If Lucy is a beautifully revelatory acid trip, Kite is shit going scary.
That's a perfect take.

Re: Pepper - Side A - Round 2

Posted: 23 Dec 2020, 4:07pm
by BitterTom
JennyB wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 3:23pm
Am I the only one who is an unabashed Kite fan?
Nope, though it's not my favourite I enjoy the nightmarish feel to the song.

Really enjoying listening back to this album in particular.