Ah, like the rules about not tripping someone as they walk by or not signing them up to a libertarian PAC mailing list.gkbill wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 10:12amHello,Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46amSadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.Flex wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:43amThe first sentence in the message answers the second pretty nicely imhoDr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 8:55am"You people all have PhDs. How are you so incompetent with this?"
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
I have more than one colleague who would screw stuff like this up and then, when pointed out, would act like "Oh, it's just email...these rules are so pedestrian! ".
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I really believe this hyper specialization often come at the expense of common sense.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46amSadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.Flex wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:43amThe first sentence in the message answers the second pretty nicely imhoDr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 8:55am"You people all have PhDs. How are you so incompetent with this?"
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
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Entirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:16amI really believe this hyper specialization often come at the expense of common sense.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46amSadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.Flex wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:43amThe first sentence in the message answers the second pretty nicely imhoDr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 8:55am"You people all have PhDs. How are you so incompetent with this?"
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
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I see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:23amEntirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:16amI really believe this hyper specialization often come at the expense of common sense.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46amSadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.Flex wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:43amThe first sentence in the message answers the second pretty nicely imhoDr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 8:55am"You people all have PhDs. How are you so incompetent with this?"
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
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There's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:04pmI see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:23amEntirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:16amI really believe this hyper specialization often come at the expense of common sense.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46amSadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
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Ive known/know those that fit that sort of Vulcanesque(?) approach to things but in my experience most know when to apply that and when not to.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:07pmThere's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:04pmI see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:23amEntirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:16amI really believe this hyper specialization often come at the expense of common sense.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 9:46am
Sadly, yes. I've often said that most people with doctorates couldn't get a job pushing a broom because their competence in that sub-sub-sub-field has come at the expense of everything else.
(I once worked as a janitor, so I'm clearly an alpha.)
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
Im pretty emotional myself (anger is still an emotion right?). I do think of myself as fairly well rounded though.
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The capacity to turn things on and off based on the situation. I want a rigorous engineer working on shit; I don’t want to have a casual conversation with one. In my classroom, I want people to treat popular culture critically; outside, just shooting, like we do here, it can be dumb fun. How many people would stick around if we had to discuss music like the survival of the species was riding on it?revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:21pmIve known/know those that fit that sort of Vulcanesque(?) approach to things but in my experience most know when to apply that and when not to.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:07pmThere's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:04pmI see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:23amEntirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
Im pretty emotional myself (anger is still an emotion right?). I do think of myself as fairly well rounded though.
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A society of Rothko's.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:33pmThe capacity to turn things on and off based on the situation. I want a rigorous engineer working on shit; I don’t want to have a casual conversation with one. In my classroom, I want people to treat popular culture critically; outside, just shooting, like we do here, it can be dumb fun. How many people would stick around if we had to discuss music like the survival of the species was riding on it?revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:21pmIve known/know those that fit that sort of Vulcanesque(?) approach to things but in my experience most know when to apply that and when not to.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:07pmThere's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:04pmI see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 11:23am
Entirely. Succeeding in a bubble usually means not being able to work in the wider world. And academics are dorks who don't really fit in anyway, so it just accelerates that inclination. A prof once told me that rising within academia mostly requires real world competence. That's the rare skillset. When I was a student, on the outside, I thought he was joking—and to a degree he was—but there's a lot of truth there.
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
Im pretty emotional myself (anger is still an emotion right?). I do think of myself as fairly well rounded though.
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Or a society of Pitchfork writers.Kory wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 8:25pmA society of Rothko's.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:33pmThe capacity to turn things on and off based on the situation. I want a rigorous engineer working on shit; I don’t want to have a casual conversation with one. In my classroom, I want people to treat popular culture critically; outside, just shooting, like we do here, it can be dumb fun. How many people would stick around if we had to discuss music like the survival of the species was riding on it?revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:21pmIve known/know those that fit that sort of Vulcanesque(?) approach to things but in my experience most know when to apply that and when not to.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:07pmThere's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:04pm
I see it in IT at certain levels, its not as homogenous of a field as most people think. I think as people are further removed from the physical they lose a certain sense of things and the cause/effect relationship of the physical.
I used to do more electro mechanical type work and I found those people to have more common sense, I think because the work has a strong foundation in the physical realm.
But I also see how politics and paranoia have turned some of that on its head.
Im pretty emotional myself (anger is still an emotion right?). I do think of myself as fairly well rounded though.
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I'm dubious that those people care about music.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 8:31pmOr a society of Pitchfork writers.Kory wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 8:25pmA society of Rothko's.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:33pmThe capacity to turn things on and off based on the situation. I want a rigorous engineer working on shit; I don’t want to have a casual conversation with one. In my classroom, I want people to treat popular culture critically; outside, just shooting, like we do here, it can be dumb fun. How many people would stick around if we had to discuss music like the survival of the species was riding on it?revbob wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:21pmIve known/know those that fit that sort of Vulcanesque(?) approach to things but in my experience most know when to apply that and when not to.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 12:07pm
There's the stereotype of engineers as incapable of understanding emotion, that they want the world to be run by objective laws and predictable cause and effect. I often think of my nephew, who is an engineer but he's also a musician and a highly empathetic individual. He's more emotion-driven than most people I know.
Im pretty emotional myself (anger is still an emotion right?). I do think of myself as fairly well rounded though.
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I agree. When I've read Pitchfork reviews, I've never gotten the impression that they actually like music. It's about playing cultural critic, which is to confirm their status as Enlightened Knower of Stuff.Kory wrote: ↑12 Feb 2024, 3:34pmI'm dubious that those people care about music.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 8:31pmOr a society of Pitchfork writers.Kory wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 8:25pmA society of Rothko's.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Feb 2024, 1:33pmThe capacity to turn things on and off based on the situation. I want a rigorous engineer working on shit; I don’t want to have a casual conversation with one. In my classroom, I want people to treat popular culture critically; outside, just shooting, like we do here, it can be dumb fun. How many people would stick around if we had to discuss music like the survival of the species was riding on it?
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I think the culture at pitchfork changed some years back and they pulled themselves out of their asses a bit. Either way, sad what's happened to it.
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They got to you, didn't they! Answer me, you Quisling!
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I give this accusation a 2.7. extremely pedestrian example of post-core noiseshite
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You should namedrop a cultural theorist to back up your douchery.Flex wrote: ↑12 Feb 2024, 4:08pmI give this accusation a 2.7. extremely pedestrian example of post-core noiseshite
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