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December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
by Marky Dread


Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 10:53am
by Sparky
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am

Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
I remember hearing about the Grundy show when I was younger, but not having the internet way back then, it was all second & third hand info, things we'd read in music magazines. Now many years later with YT etc., I've been able to go back and see all the things we'd heard about and it's just so fun to relive these magical moments in punk history.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 11:05am
by matedog
Grundy propositioning Siouxsie is so disgusting. I'm glad the band, Steve in particular, responded appropriately.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 11:24am
by Mimi
Clean like the Rolling Stones...bwhahahahahah

I think I remember seeing snippets of this on tv but never the whole thing.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 11:28am
by Dr. Medulla
Someone here (Marky seems a good bet) told me about this. Funny and detailed reenactment. Well worth your 20 mins.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
by Dr. Medulla
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 1:28pm
by JohnS
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 11:28am
Someone here (Marky seems a good bet) told me about this. Funny and detailed reenactment. Well worth your 20 mins.
Cheers Doc - I'd forgotten about this. Good fun, well cast and I'd forgotten how funny Freddie Mercury was, played by Kayvan Novak (Nandor in What We Do In The Shadows!)

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 1:38pm
by Dr. Medulla
JohnS wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 11:28am
Someone here (Marky seems a good bet) told me about this. Funny and detailed reenactment. Well worth your 20 mins.
Cheers Doc - I'd forgotten about this. Good fun, well cast and I'd forgotten how funny Freddie Mercury was, played by Kayvan Novak (Nandor in What We Do In The Shadows!)
I love the producer's admonishment, "Don't talk to the mad one!"

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
by Dr. Medulla
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 2:00pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.
It's been reprinted time and again as "Siegfried" and accepted but it's simply wrong. I mean who the fuck is "Siegfried" anyway and what does it have to do with Bill Grundy. It makes no sense at all.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 2:27pm
by Dr. Medulla
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.
It's been reprinted time and again as "Siegfried" and accepted but it's simply wrong. I mean who the fuck is "Siegfried" anyway and what does it have to do with Bill Grundy. It makes no sense at all.
I've assumed the Siegfried line was supposed to connote, "You Nazi." Which wouldn't have been out of place for the time.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 2:34pm
by Kory
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 10:38am
Its often printed that John Rotten says "Oh alright Siegfried" in reply to Bill Grundy questioning him on the rude word.

But what he actually replies is "Oh alright so your'e playing games now, I'm well impressed".
What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.
It's been reprinted time and again as "Siegfried" and accepted but it's simply wrong. I mean who the fuck is "Siegfried" anyway and what does it have to do with Bill Grundy. It makes no sense at all.
Funny you posted this, I was thinking about it in the shower the other day and was going to make a post asking who Siegfried is supposed to be.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 2:36pm
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:27pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm


What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.
It's been reprinted time and again as "Siegfried" and accepted but it's simply wrong. I mean who the fuck is "Siegfried" anyway and what does it have to do with Bill Grundy. It makes no sense at all.
I've assumed the Siegfried line was supposed to connote, "You Nazi." Which wouldn't have been out of place for the time.
Due to the cross talk, I can hear it both ways, though Marky's interpretation makes more sense.

Re: December 1st 1976 ...tea time!

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 3:11pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:27pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 2:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Dec 2021, 12:23pm


What's your source for this? I've never come across a clear alternative to the Siegfried interpretation; at best, it's been treated as indecipherable.
I've got the whole thing in audio. I have slowed it down and that is exactly what he says. Even on the clip I posted you can clearly hear the word "impressed" as the camera pans away. I'm 100% that what I posted further up is exact.
Ah, gotcha. I trust your ears and tech skills. And the response sounds quite plausible.
It's been reprinted time and again as "Siegfried" and accepted but it's simply wrong. I mean who the fuck is "Siegfried" anyway and what does it have to do with Bill Grundy. It makes no sense at all.
I've assumed the Siegfried line was supposed to connote, "You Nazi." Which wouldn't have been out of place for the time.
Was Siegfried a Nazi or are you just making that connotation from Sieg Heil? John being John would've simply called him a Nazi. Maybe I'll upload it slowed down.