MLB 2022

[revbob]

One of things that impresses me about Judge is that his home runs usually seem to matter—coming from behind, breaking a tie. None of this garbage time stuff against a half-drunk reliever.

Flex will have your pink hat for this.

[Dr. Medulla]

One of things that impresses me about Judge is that his home runs usually seem to matter—coming from behind, breaking a tie. None of this garbage time stuff against a half-drunk reliever.

Flex will have your pink hat for this.

He's too busy mashing an email to Tucker Carlson about how Roger Maris is being canceled.

[revbob]

One of things that impresses me about Judge is that his home runs usually seem to matter—coming from behind, breaking a tie. None of this garbage time stuff against a half-drunk reliever.

Flex will have your pink hat for this.

He's too busy mashing an email to Tucker Carlson about how Roger Maris is being canceled.

While listening to Pennywise.

[Dr. Medulla]

One of things that impresses me about Judge is that his home runs usually seem to matter—coming from behind, breaking a tie. None of this garbage time stuff against a half-drunk reliever.

Flex will have your pink hat for this.

He's too busy mashing an email to Tucker Carlson about how Roger Maris is being canceled.

While listening to Pennywise.

Or the Nuge.

[WestwayKid]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/roger-ma ... son-record

I don't disagree.

[WestwayKid]

Also, little known Roger Maris fact: he shares a hometown with Bob Dylan.

Also, according to Wikipedia, they also share it with Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, Kevin McHale, winemaker Robert Mondavi, and Gary "Young girl, get out of my mind" Puckett.

[Dr. Medulla]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/roger-ma ... son-record

I don't disagree.

Nah, I think we're all capable of keeping two sets of books. Bonds has the official record and fans can choose whether to put a mental asterisk beside it. I mean, for me, yeah, when Frankenstein hits #62, that to me is the real record (assuming we don't find out he's been doping). But it sucked when Ford Frick diminished Maris' season with an asterisk and it's just as bad to do the same to other juicers. The numbers are what they are and we choose to give them meaning.

[Dr. Medulla]

Also, little known Roger Maris fact: he shares a hometown with Bob Dylan.

Also, according to Wikipedia, they also share it with Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, Kevin McHale, winemaker Robert Mondavi, and Gary "Young girl, get out of my mind" Puckett.

I've always loved this story about Maris and a fan. The dude was sincerely humble.
https://www.vintagedetroit.com/the-incr ... -his-hero/

[BostonBeaneater]

Also, little known Roger Maris fact: he shares a hometown with Bob Dylan.

Also, according to Wikipedia, they also share it with Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, Kevin McHale, winemaker Robert Mondavi, and Gary "Young girl, get out of my mind" Puckett.

We had this Kevin McHale poster on the basement wall growing up.

[Mimi]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/roger-ma ... son-record

I don't disagree.

Nah, I think we're all capable of keeping two sets of books. Bonds has the official record and fans can choose whether to put a mental asterisk beside it. I mean, for me, yeah, when Frankenstein hits #62, that to me is the real record (assuming we don't find out he's been doping). But it sucked when Ford Frick diminished Maris' season with an asterisk and it's just as bad to do the same to other juicers. The numbers are what they are and we choose to give them meaning.

It's hard to compartmentalize it for some. I admit having a hard time giving someone who doped any recognition, but we can't pretend those numbers don't exist. Besides, who's to say Bonds wouldn't have hit 76 without help?

[JennyB]

Is everyone just sleeping on the fact that an 63 year old man just hit his 700th home run and that *his* team clinched the division?

[Flex]

I think if they want to expunge the records for dopers they need to identify verified dopers and issue lifetime bans from the game to along with record expungement. If they won't do that, then I think the records should stand (and, to be clear, I don't think they should do that).

Personally, I'm glad they've at least made a pretense of cleaning up the game from where it was in the 90s (although that's just more so I can enjoy a pleasant, self-deluding fiction since I'm sure everyone is still just cheating in new and more stealthy ways). I also don't really have that much of a bee in my bonnet about dopers. Baseball and cheating to get ahead have gone hand in hand since the birth of the game.

Honestly, putting an asterisk on any counting record made after the season expanded to 162 games makes more objective, rational sense to me than trying to arbitrarily adjudicate which forms of cheating rise to a level of meriting some special form of stigma or punishment. And I don't think we should do that either!

[WestwayKid]

Is everyone just sleeping on the fact that an 63 year old man just hit his 700th home run and that *his* team clinched the division?

I feel like Pujols is somewhat tainted at this point, while Judge comes across as a clean living (and playing) All-American Hero. He's the kind of guy people want their kids looking up to (my son - a diehard Brewers fan - is also a big Judge fan).

[Dr. Medulla]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/roger-ma ... son-record

I don't disagree.

Nah, I think we're all capable of keeping two sets of books. Bonds has the official record and fans can choose whether to put a mental asterisk beside it. I mean, for me, yeah, when Frankenstein hits #62, that to me is the real record (assuming we don't find out he's been doping). But it sucked when Ford Frick diminished Maris' season with an asterisk and it's just as bad to do the same to other juicers. The numbers are what they are and we choose to give them meaning.

It's hard to compartmentalize it for some. I admit having a hard time giving someone who doped any recognition, but we can't pretend those numbers don't exist. Besides, who's to say Bonds wouldn't have hit 76 without help?

Many have said that about Bonds—he didn’t need to dope to hit homers, so it’s all good. Yeah, but he did. There’s something tragic that Bonds and Clemens, two of the most gifted ballplayers of their generation, aren’t in the HoF because it still wasn’t good enough.

[Dr. Medulla]

Is everyone just sleeping on the fact that an 63 year old man just hit his 700th home run and that *his* team clinched the division?

As much as I like dumping on Pooholes, it is cool that he did this and it was so unexpected given his decline. Is it the lead and arsenic in St. Louis’ water? If he had never signed with LAAAAAAAAA, would he have passed Baroid? Anyway, I’m old and I like feel-good stories in sports more than stuff that fuels my cynicism.