MLB 2022

[WestwayKid]

from what I read, Hader has one more year of arbitration where he would be expected to get around 15-16 million. He is making 11 mllion this season. So, to me, it kinda sounds like a salary dump being the main impetus to trade him, getting a closer (not quite as good) back in return plus a couple of decent prospects is a side-effect of the bigger picture (read: money) move they decided to make.

I guess the Selig family is feeling the economic pinch too. [/crocodile tears]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

No, to his kids he sold a '01 Alero, only 195,000 miles on it and purrs like a kitten it does, and he threw in a set of snow tires.

Ha! I actually went to one of his lots to look at a used car and everything was massively overrpriced.

[Dr. Medulla]

from what I read, Hader has one more year of arbitration where he would be expected to get around 15-16 million. He is making 11 mllion this season. So, to me, it kinda sounds like a salary dump being the main impetus to trade him, getting a closer (not quite as good) back in return plus a couple of decent prospects is a side-effect of the bigger picture (read: money) move they decided to make.

I guess the Selig family is feeling the economic pinch too. [/crocodile tears]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

No, to his kids he sold a '01 Alero, only 195,000 miles on it and purrs like a kitten it does, and he threw in a set of snow tires.

Ha! I actually went to one of his lots to look at a used car and everything was massively overrpriced.

Every picture I've seen of Bud Selig, he looks like there should be a soup stain on his tie and cracker crumbs in the corner of his mouth.

[Dr. Medulla]

The HosmEra begins in Boston!

[WestwayKid]

from what I read, Hader has one more year of arbitration where he would be expected to get around 15-16 million. He is making 11 mllion this season. So, to me, it kinda sounds like a salary dump being the main impetus to trade him, getting a closer (not quite as good) back in return plus a couple of decent prospects is a side-effect of the bigger picture (read: money) move they decided to make.

I guess the Selig family is feeling the economic pinch too. [/crocodile tears]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

He sold to Mark Attanasio, who is a Brooklyn based businessman. He's been a good owner and has turned them from habitual bottom feeders to habitual playoff contenders. That said, he's still operating within the confines of one of the smallest (if not the smallest) market in MLB. I think it's clear they were not going to be able to resign Hader, so I get moving him. One thing that gets lost is that we have a guy in Devin Williams, who is pitching better than Hader and Taylor right now. He's been the 8th inning guy, but I can see him getting moved into the closer role, with Taylor being the setup man. Williams has been an absolute beast this season.

[weller259]

from what I read, Hader has one more year of arbitration where he would be expected to get around 15-16 million. He is making 11 mllion this season. So, to me, it kinda sounds like a salary dump being the main impetus to trade him, getting a closer (not quite as good) back in return plus a couple of decent prospects is a side-effect of the bigger picture (read: money) move they decided to make.

I guess the Selig family is feeling the economic pinch too. [/crocodile tears]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

He sold to Mark Attanasio, who is a Brooklyn based businessman. He's been a good owner and has turned them from habitual bottom feeders to habitual playoff contenders. That said, he's still operating within the confines of one of the smallest (if not the smallest) market in MLB. I think it's clear they were not going to be able to resign Hader, so I get moving him. One thing that gets lost is that we have a guy in Devin Williams, who is pitching better than Hader and Taylor right now. He's been the 8th inning guy, but I can see him getting moved into the closer role, with Taylor being the setup man. Williams has been an absolute beast this season.

Williams has looked great from the few times i've seen him. I get the move for financial reasons but this is supposed to be "the major leagues" which by definition means (to me) that there should be no such thing as "small market" teams, that's what the minor leagues are for, smaller markets.
But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

[BostonBeaneater]

But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

Maybe if you just quit it with the Starbucks and avocado toast!

[Dr. Medulla]

But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

Maybe if you just quit it with the Starbucks and avocado toast!

Weller's not a Millennial; he's an old-as-dirt Xer like us.

[Dr. Medulla]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/ ... -jays.html
Merrifield to the Jays. I mention this because he was one of loud and proud anti-vax mouthbreathers. I guess he's had a change of heart?

[Flex]

Weird trade deadline for the Sox. Getting rid of Vasquez seemed to signal we were about to get into a fire sale - which I supported - but then all that happened were a couple of modest moves to patch up some of our worst holes. Which is fine, but doesn't feel like we should have gotten rid of Vasquez then if we weren't really in sale mode. I'm guessing Chaim was close on a couple deals that disinigrated at the last minute and we ended up kinda stuck in no man's land.

I like watching the team when they're trying to compete or they're auditioning young talent. Watching a leaky raft just try to stay afloat long enough isn't as thrilling, especially since a couple of those pickups are grade-A Known Assholes.

Addendum: the Hosmer deal is nice work tho.

[Dr. Medulla]

I like watching the team when they're trying to compete or they're auditioning young talent. Watching a leaky raft just try to stay afloat long enough isn't as thrilling, especially since a couple of those pickups are grade-A Known Assholes.

Less talented, less potential, and less likeable tells me I won't be pirating as many games going forward. The Pham trade is especially galling and confusing. The only way it makes sense to me is that Bloom thought he'd be able to move JD and then that didn't happen. Meh, whatever. Go Whoever's-Playing-the-Yankees.

[WestwayKid]

from what I read, Hader has one more year of arbitration where he would be expected to get around 15-16 million. He is making 11 mllion this season. So, to me, it kinda sounds like a salary dump being the main impetus to trade him, getting a closer (not quite as good) back in return plus a couple of decent prospects is a side-effect of the bigger picture (read: money) move they decided to make.

I guess the Selig family is feeling the economic pinch too. [/crocodile tears]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

He sold to Mark Attanasio, who is a Brooklyn based businessman. He's been a good owner and has turned them from habitual bottom feeders to habitual playoff contenders. That said, he's still operating within the confines of one of the smallest (if not the smallest) market in MLB. I think it's clear they were not going to be able to resign Hader, so I get moving him. One thing that gets lost is that we have a guy in Devin Williams, who is pitching better than Hader and Taylor right now. He's been the 8th inning guy, but I can see him getting moved into the closer role, with Taylor being the setup man. Williams has been an absolute beast this season.

Williams has looked great from the few times i've seen him. I get the move for financial reasons but this is supposed to be "the major leagues" which by definition means (to me) that there should be no such thing as "small market" teams, that's what the minor leagues are for, smaller markets.
But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

In theory, you're right - but being a lifelong Brewers fan, I can assure you there are small market teams. We've obviously seen small market teams make good, just as we've seen big market team suck (Cubs, ahem). I have faith in our leadership. They've shown they're willing to throw some money around, even when we get burned (Yelich). At the end of the day - Brewers are in 1st. Losing Hader isn't going to hurt them (knock on wood). Williams is good. He should be able to shoulder the burden of closing.

[Dr. Medulla]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

He sold to Mark Attanasio, who is a Brooklyn based businessman. He's been a good owner and has turned them from habitual bottom feeders to habitual playoff contenders. That said, he's still operating within the confines of one of the smallest (if not the smallest) market in MLB. I think it's clear they were not going to be able to resign Hader, so I get moving him. One thing that gets lost is that we have a guy in Devin Williams, who is pitching better than Hader and Taylor right now. He's been the 8th inning guy, but I can see him getting moved into the closer role, with Taylor being the setup man. Williams has been an absolute beast this season.

Williams has looked great from the few times i've seen him. I get the move for financial reasons but this is supposed to be "the major leagues" which by definition means (to me) that there should be no such thing as "small market" teams, that's what the minor leagues are for, smaller markets.
But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

In theory, you're right - but being a lifelong Brewers fan, I can assure you there are small market teams. We've obviously seen small market teams make good, just as we've seen big market team suck (Cubs, ahem). I have faith in our leadership. They've shown they're willing to throw some money around, even when we get burned (Yelich). At the end of the day - Brewers are in 1st. Losing Hader isn't going to hurt them (knock on wood). Williams is good. He should be able to shoulder the burden of closing.

In support of Weller's contention, there are, strictly speaking, no small market teams. No owner is losing money; they're all making obscene amounts, tho, yes, the Steinbrenner spawn are pocketing more in actual dollars. The idea of small and large markets is, to me, a way of managing fan expectations of how much should be spent on the team. But the Brewers damn well could go toe-to-toe with any other team if the owner were willing to accept less profit.

[weller259]

But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

Maybe if you just quit it with the Starbucks and avocado toast!

Weller's not a Millennial; he's an old-as-dirt Xer like us.

Thank you Doc...................... I think
Anyone who thinks I would pay 9 dollars for a coffee doesn't understand a new yorker's attitude about being ripped the fuck off. lol. (I don't drink coffee at all, I live on cranberry juice these days and I love it, lol)

[weller259]

Bud sold the team in 2004

Yes but didn't he sell it to his children? At least that is what my brain is telling me .....

He sold to Mark Attanasio, who is a Brooklyn based businessman. He's been a good owner and has turned them from habitual bottom feeders to habitual playoff contenders. That said, he's still operating within the confines of one of the smallest (if not the smallest) market in MLB. I think it's clear they were not going to be able to resign Hader, so I get moving him. One thing that gets lost is that we have a guy in Devin Williams, who is pitching better than Hader and Taylor right now. He's been the 8th inning guy, but I can see him getting moved into the closer role, with Taylor being the setup man. Williams has been an absolute beast this season.

Williams has looked great from the few times i've seen him. I get the move for financial reasons but this is supposed to be "the major leagues" which by definition means (to me) that there should be no such thing as "small market" teams, that's what the minor leagues are for, smaller markets.
But then again what do I know, i'm not a billionaire.

In theory, you're right - but being a lifelong Brewers fan, I can assure you there are small market teams. We've obviously seen small market teams make good, just as we've seen big market team suck (Cubs, ahem). I have faith in our leadership. They've shown they're willing to throw some money around, even when we get burned (Yelich). At the end of the day - Brewers are in 1st. Losing Hader isn't going to hurt them (knock on wood). Williams is good. He should be able to shoulder the burden of closing.

Yes, "small market" teams can be good, Tampa, Oakland (before this year), no question, and as a NL fan I respect the Brewers, they are a good team and have pitching and offensive weapons, its just sad that the one North American Major League sport without a salary cap has teams needing to make moves because of money a player might get due to them performing above average on the field. I understand it, it is after all, a business, and business is always ruled by profits, meaning that my romantic connection with the sport is based on a belief that turns out to be total bullshit.

Sighs.

[revbob]

So I was just running an errand and turned on the Yankee game to hear a "it is high , it is far it is gone" for a Matt Carpenter home run. "He really nailed it!" Only to learn seconds later it was actually Rizzo who "raked it". "I got my lefties mixed up". This guy should just bow out now, too late to do it gracefully though.