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Flex wrote:
12 Sep 2022, 6:28pm
You can search "basketball fan fights 2021" and find plenty of the same kinda scenes.

ETA: sports culture is just noxious generally, I think. I used to think the NFL is worse, but I'm not particularly convinced of that anymore. Due to my standards for all sports being lowered, not out of any improved views of the NFL, mind.
The encounters between Giants and Dodgers fans at each others' parks (or parking lots) is savage. All reflective of a coarsening culture, with that necessary pinch of team tribalism and sports testosterone to make things extra lethal.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Sep 2022, 6:41pm
Flex wrote:
12 Sep 2022, 6:28pm
You can search "basketball fan fights 2021" and find plenty of the same kinda scenes.

ETA: sports culture is just noxious generally, I think. I used to think the NFL is worse, but I'm not particularly convinced of that anymore. Due to my standards for all sports being lowered, not out of any improved views of the NFL, mind.
The encounters between Giants and Dodgers fans at each others' parks (or parking lots) is savage. All reflective of a coarsening culture, with that necessary pinch of team tribalism and sports testosterone to make things extra lethal.
Yeah, no interest in going to a ballgame these days. People get awful upset about their favorite laundry losing.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 5:20pm
revbob wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 4:16pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 12:54pm
It really hit me yesterday. As I was getting off the plane there were the usual suspects in their golf shirts and too tight New Balance frantically checking their phones to check the scores, discuss the scores, and check the scores again. Boring, boring, boring.
Ive given it up too. I stopped following a team like 25 years ago and then got pulled into fantasy football with people from work. Now I just like to see the Jets beat the Pats once every 10 years so I can rub it into Flex's face.
It’s something about rich white guys watching poor kids getting brain damage for entertainment that doesn’t sit well. The racism and plantation mentality of the whole thing is sickening.
This speaks to your point quite well:

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matedog wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 5:31pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 5:20pm
revbob wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 4:16pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 12:54pm
It really hit me yesterday. As I was getting off the plane there were the usual suspects in their golf shirts and too tight New Balance frantically checking their phones to check the scores, discuss the scores, and check the scores again. Boring, boring, boring.
Ive given it up too. I stopped following a team like 25 years ago and then got pulled into fantasy football with people from work. Now I just like to see the Jets beat the Pats once every 10 years so I can rub it into Flex's face.
It’s something about rich white guys watching poor kids getting brain damage for entertainment that doesn’t sit well. The racism and plantation mentality of the whole thing is sickening.
This speaks to your point quite well:

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Just horrible. I saw one person respond by linking to this Doonesbury from 1974(!). The essence of the sport is the generalship of World War I.
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1974/12/16
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 5:48pm
Just horrible. I saw one person respond by linking to this Doonesbury from 1974(!). The essence of the sport is the generalship of World War I.
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1974/12/16
Somehow still funnier than bloom county
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Flex wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 7:10pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 5:48pm
Just horrible. I saw one person respond by linking to this Doonesbury from 1974(!). The essence of the sport is the generalship of World War I.
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1974/12/16
Somehow still funnier than bloom county
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i'm a big fan of Bill the cat. Oop ack!
I agree totally with it being a booze-fueled outlet for hate.
This country is totally fucked up in the head.
I won't even go to a high school football game. Same shit happens there too. its truly pathetic.
I don't mind watching the games without a rooting interest if there is nothing else on to watch when i've got time to kill, athleticism appreciation and all that, but other than that, american football is garbage really, pandering to the TV networks/audiences above all else.
Now, aussie rules, that looks like some fun stuff. I wish I would have known about it in my youth, i'd have loved to give it a go. It looks like a total blast to play.
From what I see there's still a little hope
That's if we don't hang from too much rope

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One of the weirder aspects of getting older is watching my close friends who used to not give a shit about football now forcing the group to go watch it in bars with them while they publicly clap and say "yeah!" whenever something good happens to their team. They're like different people. I just don't understand following your city's team and caring what happens to them. They aren't from Seattle, they probably don't even live here, and they'd jump ship as soon as the money is good enough. What's the point of having any loyalty to that?
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Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:44pm
One of the weirder aspects of getting older is watching my close friends who used to not give a shit about football now forcing the group to go watch it in bars with them while they publicly clap and say "yeah!" whenever something good happens to their team. They're like different people. I just don't understand following your city's team and caring what happens to them. They aren't from Seattle, they probably don't even live here, and they'd jump ship as soon as the money is good enough. What's the point of having any loyalty to that?
Like all sports, its a way to connect with your community and local culture and feel invested in something larger than yourself. Maybe people should find better ways to do that, but that's what it is.

Also, gambling.
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Flex wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:48pm
Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:44pm
One of the weirder aspects of getting older is watching my close friends who used to not give a shit about football now forcing the group to go watch it in bars with them while they publicly clap and say "yeah!" whenever something good happens to their team. They're like different people. I just don't understand following your city's team and caring what happens to them. They aren't from Seattle, they probably don't even live here, and they'd jump ship as soon as the money is good enough. What's the point of having any loyalty to that?
Like all sports, its a way to connect with your community and local culture and feel invested in something larger than yourself. Maybe people should find better ways to do that, but that's what it is.

Also, gambling.
That makes sense, but it still doesn't ring true for these friends of mine. They're normally not susceptible to that kind of thing.
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Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:55pm
Flex wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:48pm
Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:44pm
One of the weirder aspects of getting older is watching my close friends who used to not give a shit about football now forcing the group to go watch it in bars with them while they publicly clap and say "yeah!" whenever something good happens to their team. They're like different people. I just don't understand following your city's team and caring what happens to them. They aren't from Seattle, they probably don't even live here, and they'd jump ship as soon as the money is good enough. What's the point of having any loyalty to that?
Like all sports, its a way to connect with your community and local culture and feel invested in something larger than yourself. Maybe people should find better ways to do that, but that's what it is.

Also, gambling.
That makes sense, but it still doesn't ring true for these friends of mine. They're normally not susceptible to that kind of thing.
Also, drinking.
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Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:55pm
Flex wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:48pm
Kory wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 4:44pm
One of the weirder aspects of getting older is watching my close friends who used to not give a shit about football now forcing the group to go watch it in bars with them while they publicly clap and say "yeah!" whenever something good happens to their team. They're like different people. I just don't understand following your city's team and caring what happens to them. They aren't from Seattle, they probably don't even live here, and they'd jump ship as soon as the money is good enough. What's the point of having any loyalty to that?
Like all sports, its a way to connect with your community and local culture and feel invested in something larger than yourself. Maybe people should find better ways to do that, but that's what it is.

Also, gambling.
That makes sense, but it still doesn't ring true for these friends of mine. They're normally not susceptible to that kind of thing.
As Flex suggested, it’s a way of putting down roots, which is what happens to people as they get older. Stability in institutions but the distinction of tribalism.
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