
Tim Lott, When We Were Rich. I learned a couple days ago that Lott produced a sequel to White City Blue, so I'll be giving that a spin.
I flat-out am baffled by the novels' popularity. Premise, sure, I get that in the context of the Cold War. But I found them boring as hell.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 6:26pm21) From Russia With Love - Ian Fleming. Paperback. 1957. The fifth James Bond novel and the last new to me one in the series. That's them all read now. This was an excellent thriller that works on the basis that Bond is a vain rube, easily manipulated by a more ruthless and intelligent foe. I can see why JFK loved this one. Might charge back on to Dr. No, the next in the series, again before too long.
I really should re-read this as it's been awhile. I know I tried to revisit his Campaign '72 book a few years back and had to abandon it. I think it was familiarity breeding contempt in me. What seemed so adventurous and iconoclastic, just romantic insanity, the first time around felt superficial and strained when I came back, having read the bulk of his work. The danger of every rebellious artist, succeeding so well that you end up seeming a cliche of yourself.22) Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas - Hunter S Thompson. Audiobook. Jesus Christ, this made me laugh. I took this stone faced seriously the first few times I read it, completely missing the comedy. Could have saved myself the martyrdom of emulation and had a few less crashing comedowns if I'd seen the main purpose was to be funny the first few times. To be fair to myself, I think Thompson himself also lost the point of the book and ended up destroying himself trying to live it. It's a truly brilliant novel that resounds because its hyperbolic outrage and exaggerated lysergic terror in the Nixon years are just the mundane reality of the second Trump administration.
I don't think I've ever read a Brooooose book, but am moderately interested. Can you think of something else that might better succeed?23) There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's “Born In The U.S.A.” and the End of the Heartland - Steven Hyden. Audiobook. 2024. Podcast research. A music writer and Springsteen fanatic, I'm not certain that Hyden has written the book he wanted to. It's got a lack of focus that's almost disguised, though not brilliantly, by the friendly and passionate writing. Just about recommended.
I love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 6:49pmI flat-out am baffled by the novels' popularity. Premise, sure, I get that in the context of the Cold War. But I found them boring as hell.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 6:26pm21) From Russia With Love - Ian Fleming. Paperback. 1957. The fifth James Bond novel and the last new to me one in the series. That's them all read now. This was an excellent thriller that works on the basis that Bond is a vain rube, easily manipulated by a more ruthless and intelligent foe. I can see why JFK loved this one. Might charge back on to Dr. No, the next in the series, again before too long.
I really should re-read this as it's been awhile. I know I tried to revisit his Campaign '72 book a few years back and had to abandon it. I think it was familiarity breeding contempt in me. What seemed so adventurous and iconoclastic, just romantic insanity, the first time around felt superficial and strained when I came back, having read the bulk of his work. The danger of every rebellious artist, succeeding so well that you end up seeming a cliche of yourself.22) Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas - Hunter S Thompson. Audiobook. Jesus Christ, this made me laugh. I took this stone faced seriously the first few times I read it, completely missing the comedy. Could have saved myself the martyrdom of emulation and had a few less crashing comedowns if I'd seen the main purpose was to be funny the first few times. To be fair to myself, I think Thompson himself also lost the point of the book and ended up destroying himself trying to live it. It's a truly brilliant novel that resounds because its hyperbolic outrage and exaggerated lysergic terror in the Nixon years are just the mundane reality of the second Trump administration.
I don't think I've ever read a Brooooose book, but am moderately interested. Can you think of something else that might better succeed?23) There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's “Born In The U.S.A.” and the End of the Heartland - Steven Hyden. Audiobook. 2024. Podcast research. A music writer and Springsteen fanatic, I'm not certain that Hyden has written the book he wanted to. It's got a lack of focus that's almost disguised, though not brilliantly, by the friendly and passionate writing. Just about recommended.
Maybe you've hit on my problem right there, given that I love Spillane's 1950s Hammer novels. Ellroy's prose is often better (tho, like Thompson, it's gotten wearisome), but he's got that same romantic brutality that appeals (arguably they share fascist sympathies, if only aesthetic). Hammer is a good guy only by the side he chooses, not by his superior character. Spillane foretold Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns and everything that followed.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:21pmI love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.
I'm not sure I could go straight to memoir. Some critical framing would be better for me to start with.I enjoyed Bruce's autobiography, it was there that I began to see the artist, the music, and the man away from the Kids In the Hall jokes and cliches about mechanics driving to glory. Bit of a time investment, but the dude knows the darkness and writes honest dispatches from the edge. If that looks like it'd be too long, go for the Nebraska book.
Then definitely Nebraska by Warren Zanes.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:31pmMaybe you've hit on my problem right there, given that I love Spillane's 1950s Hammer novels. Ellroy's prose is often better (tho, like Thompson, it's gotten wearisome), but he's got that same romantic brutality that appeals (arguably they share fascist sympathies, if only aesthetic). Hammer is a good guy only by the side he chooses, not by his superior character. Spillane foretold Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns and everything that followed.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:21pmI love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.
I'm not sure I could go straight to memoir. Some critical framing would be better for me to start with.I enjoyed Bruce's autobiography, it was there that I began to see the artist, the music, and the man away from the Kids In the Hall jokes and cliches about mechanics driving to glory. Bit of a time investment, but the dude knows the darkness and writes honest dispatches from the edge. If that looks like it'd be too long, go for the Nebraska book.
SoulSeek has provided me both audiobook and epub. Merci bien.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:37pmThen definitely Nebraska by Warren Zanes.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:31pmMaybe you've hit on my problem right there, given that I love Spillane's 1950s Hammer novels. Ellroy's prose is often better (tho, like Thompson, it's gotten wearisome), but he's got that same romantic brutality that appeals (arguably they share fascist sympathies, if only aesthetic). Hammer is a good guy only by the side he chooses, not by his superior character. Spillane foretold Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns and everything that followed.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:21pmI love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.
I'm not sure I could go straight to memoir. Some critical framing would be better for me to start with.I enjoyed Bruce's autobiography, it was there that I began to see the artist, the music, and the man away from the Kids In the Hall jokes and cliches about mechanics driving to glory. Bit of a time investment, but the dude knows the darkness and writes honest dispatches from the edge. If that looks like it'd be too long, go for the Nebraska book.
My pleasure. I don't expect you to ever love the music, cos there's a desperate need for hope in the writing (which I like) and a maximalist approach to the arrangements and production (that I don't). I think, knowing your tastes, that they'll remain deflection points for your interest, but the story is an interesting one with an insanely driven and damaged character trying to good at its centre. You know, like a Bruce Springsteen song.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:42pmSoulSeek has provided me both audiobook and epub. Merci bien.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:37pmThen definitely Nebraska by Warren Zanes.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:31pmMaybe you've hit on my problem right there, given that I love Spillane's 1950s Hammer novels. Ellroy's prose is often better (tho, like Thompson, it's gotten wearisome), but he's got that same romantic brutality that appeals (arguably they share fascist sympathies, if only aesthetic). Hammer is a good guy only by the side he chooses, not by his superior character. Spillane foretold Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns and everything that followed.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:21pmI love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.
I'm not sure I could go straight to memoir. Some critical framing would be better for me to start with.I enjoyed Bruce's autobiography, it was there that I began to see the artist, the music, and the man away from the Kids In the Hall jokes and cliches about mechanics driving to glory. Bit of a time investment, but the dude knows the darkness and writes honest dispatches from the edge. If that looks like it'd be too long, go for the Nebraska book.
Not a problem—I compartmentalize intellectual interest from more personal or aesthetic interest. I've often had to explain to students that the stuff I talk about isn't an endorsement of the music, just an interest in the ideas they raise or that they help illustrate what I'm trying to get across. By the same token, I rarely get to talk about the bands I love the most because I haven't been able to fit them into an interesting problem. I remember a student writing a term paper on Rush's 2112 and the Cold War. He told me I should listen to the album while reading it. I laughed and said, "I'm very interested in your argumet, but you'd have to pay me more money than you have to make me also listen to that record."Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:47pmMy pleasure. I don't expect you to ever love the music, cos there's a desperate need for hope in the writing (which I like) and a maximalist approach to the arrangements and production (that I don't). I think, knowing your tastes, that they'll remain deflection points for your interest, but the story is an interesting one with an insanely driven and damaged character trying to good at its centre. You know, like a Bruce Springsteen song.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:42pmSoulSeek has provided me both audiobook and epub. Merci bien.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:37pmThen definitely Nebraska by Warren Zanes.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:31pmMaybe you've hit on my problem right there, given that I love Spillane's 1950s Hammer novels. Ellroy's prose is often better (tho, like Thompson, it's gotten wearisome), but he's got that same romantic brutality that appeals (arguably they share fascist sympathies, if only aesthetic). Hammer is a good guy only by the side he chooses, not by his superior character. Spillane foretold Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns and everything that followed.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 7:21pmI love it when the stakes of a Fleming novel are pifflingly small, like a guy who cheats at cards turns out, in the last thirty pages, to be embezzling money from the civil service or something. That's where a character like NovelBond exists and really flourishes. The action is well drawn and the books are good at showing the protagonist as being constantly very close to defeat, but, ultimately, if you're not here for the main character enjoying the sensual delights of a well cooked French gourmet deal, then John LeCarre or Mickey Spillane might be a better place for you.
I'm not sure I could go straight to memoir. Some critical framing would be better for me to start with.I enjoyed Bruce's autobiography, it was there that I began to see the artist, the music, and the man away from the Kids In the Hall jokes and cliches about mechanics driving to glory. Bit of a time investment, but the dude knows the darkness and writes honest dispatches from the edge. If that looks like it'd be too long, go for the Nebraska book.
Nice one.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Mar 2025, 6:26pm23) There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's “Born In The U.S.A.” and the End of the Heartland - Steven Hyden. Audiobook. 2024. Podcast research. A music writer and Springsteen fanatic, I'm not certain that Hyden has written the book he wanted to. It's got a lack of focus that's almost disguised, though not brilliantly