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Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
by Silent Majority
68) Norwood by Charles Portis. Audiobook. 1966. From the writer of True Grit. A low stakes shaggy dog road movie of a book. Nicely written and laugh out loud funny at times. Glen Campbell played the title character in the adaptation and while I haven't seen it, he was badly miscast. It should have been a young Rip Torn or at least Paul Newman in a more dangerous mode. Real fun.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 11:10am
by Dr. Medulla
Finished listening to Frank this morning. What a frustratingly inconsistent book. To the good, he's mostly dead on in his indictment of modern liberalism for its contempt of the average person and populism as concept. Defer to your betters—morally, intellectually, economically. Modern liberalism is, in fact, suspicious of democracy because it gives to much say to the unwashed. I don't have any issue with that save for Frank's rhetoric at times sounds like he actually opposes expertise altogether. One can critique the use of expertise as some kind of trump card, but expertise in some cases is absolutely crucial (e.g., dealing with a pandemic or environmental collapse). Sometimes dedicated learning is better than personal experience.

That said, his treatment of actual populism is frustratingly limited, focusing only on the good (basically, the more leftist elements) and ignoring examples on the right, or to suggest that populism on the right doesn't count. For example, when discussing FDR, he does mention other populists, including Huey Long, but only in passing. Huey Long was a populist and he led a populist revolt in Louisiana. Huey Long was also a fascist. Frank mocks the anti-populist talk of the respectable types who say it leads to authoritarianism. Well, sometimes it does! Soviet Russia, Communist China, Nazi Germany—those all started as populist efforts and turned into nightmares. It doesn't have to end that way, but ignoring that it has undercuts the persuasiveness of Frank's argument for populism. In assessing Trump's win in 2016, he rightly attacks the liberals who ignored that there may have been economic motives behind some of his voters—people who'd been screwed over by decades of consensus neoliberalism. Right. But a lot of those voters were also racists, homophobes, and anti-science conspiracy loons. Populism as an ideal is wonderful, yet populism in practice has shown itself to have a lot of internal problems and we don't do the idea any favours by just speaking of the ideals. And that's where the book ultimately falls apart for me. Some of the things anti-populists say actually have validity, but he works on a Manichean terrain here.

Still, I think it'd be a good book for liberals (and even some leftists) who are quick to engage in scolding and dismissal of non-elites for their behaviours and attitudes as a way of considering the larger implications of their attitudes.

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Somehow I missed that Ellroy released a new novel of romantic fascism last year.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
by Wolter
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:20pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.
When I revisited some Asterix books—I loved them as a kid, constantly signing them out of the library—it really was uncomfortable. But illustrative (no pun intended) of how racism is communicated and normalized. Just these casual, light-hearted caricatures of Africans as dim-witted animals.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:33pm
by Kory
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.
Europeans are weird as hell about race. As you know, blackface was A-ok in British comedy until quite recently.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 1:17pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 12:20pm
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.
When I revisited some Asterix books—I loved them as a kid, constantly signing them out of the library—it really was uncomfortable. But illustrative (no pun intended) of how racism is communicated and normalized. Just these casual, light-hearted caricatures of Africans as dim-witted animals.
The weird thing is I don’t think they’re generally portrayed as any more dim-witted than anyone else. But because they’re drawn like animals, it hits so much harder that they are dim-witted.

Which really sucks, because otherwise I think the books hold up well. But I could never share them with my kids until they were old enough to have a Talk I’m not ready for.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 1:34pm
by Marky Dread
Kory wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 12:33pm
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.
Europeans are weird as hell about race. As you know, blackface was A-ok in British comedy until quite recently.
I guess you never saw "Tropic Thunder".

Either way it's a terrible stereotype.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 2:15pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 1:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 12:20pm
Wolter wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 11:13am
I’ve been reading a bunch of old Asterix the Gaul comics and while mostly a delight, there are a few uncomfortable caricatures of Africans. Not quite as bad as Tintin in the Congo, but apparently those mid-20th century European cartoonists are about as good on race as you might expect.
When I revisited some Asterix books—I loved them as a kid, constantly signing them out of the library—it really was uncomfortable. But illustrative (no pun intended) of how racism is communicated and normalized. Just these casual, light-hearted caricatures of Africans as dim-witted animals.
The weird thing is I don’t think they’re generally portrayed as any more dim-witted than anyone else. But because they’re drawn like animals, it hits so much harder that they are dim-witted.
Part of the problem is that unlike the main characters, the Africans aren't given diverse personalities. So most of the Gauls are allowed to be dim and selfish but also heroic and funny and all that. But as foils and background characters, all you get is this kind of uniform dumb caricature.
Which really sucks, because otherwise I think the books hold up well. But I could never share them with my kids until they were old enough to have a Talk I’m not ready for.
I don't envy you that. Much easier to be a bigot when raising kids.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 5:46am
by Silent Majority
69) Chocky - John Wyndham. Kindle. 1963. From the author of Day of the Triffids and the Midwich Cuckoos (filmed brilliantly as Village of the Damned, a book I look forward to getting to soon). This was a brilliantly realised bit of science fiction about a young man who has an imaginary friend who may not be all that imaginary. The comfortable small town vibe really worked for me, with characters saying things like "Here's a whisky, old man. Do tell me about your day." I must be getting more tolerant as I get older. But it's Wyndham's skill to make everyone seem real and plausible.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 25 Sep 2020, 6:35pm
by Silent Majority
70) Peaky Blinders - The Real Story of Birmingham's most notorious gangs by Carl Chinn. Kindle. 2019. A rundown of the reality behind the prestige BBC TV Brummie gangster show set in the 1920s. The truth is far more prosaic than the purposefully iconic take on a ruthless man taking power from the bottom up. There never was a Peaky Blinder gang, but it was a generic name, based on their headgear, for a West Midlands tough. The name came about, not as in local legend or on TV because they kept razor blades in the brims of their fashionable flat caps and then slash a street fighter's eyes in the midst of a melee, but because they wore bowler hats (their glory days were pre-WW1, not after it) with part of the brim covering their eyes. The book is essentially a rundown of working class violence (starting with the brilliantly Birmingham sounding "sloggers" ) as kicked off by police oppression, court records and illegal betting. I enjoyed it, but I got the sense that the author really lucked out that his specific niche became unexpectedly huge and banged a well researched, ready written book into shape with a few references to Cillian Murphy.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 01 Oct 2020, 5:14pm
by Silent Majority
71) Firestarter - Stephen King. Audiobook. 1980. Based on the Prodigy song of the same name from sixteen years later. A good yarn well sewn, but here, right here is where the boy's fame and power start to get in the way of the proper word count. The story takes about 25% long to tell than it really should have, and that's the sad main takeaway I have from this very beautiful story of fatherly love and an extremely well realised, believable fictional child. I really dig the clandestine services as Big Bad, with some of the novel's most successful scenes taking place in the corners of powerful, amoral bureaucracy. I've actually got less issue with the psychotic native American villain than I expected to. An empathic storyteller, King mainly manages not to be offensive (to me, another white man) about the aboriginal stuff. I was tempted to watch the movie adaptation with baby Drew Barrymore, but the reviews are crap, with the least forgivable word spotted throughout: bland. It would make a good movie.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 01 Oct 2020, 5:43pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Oct 2020, 5:14pm
71) Firestarter - Stephen King. Audiobook. 1980. Based on the Prodigy song of the same name from sixteen years later.
Ha!
A good yarn well sewn, but here, right here is where the boy's fame and power start to get in the way of the proper word count. The story takes about 25% long to tell than it really should have, and that's the sad main takeaway I have from this very beautiful story of fatherly love and an extremely well realised, believable fictional child. I really dig the clandestine services as Big Bad, with some of the novel's most successful scenes taking place in the corners of powerful, amoral bureaucracy. I've actually got less issue with the psychotic native American villain than I expected to. An empathic storyteller, King mainly manages not to be offensive (to me, another white man) about the aboriginal stuff. I was tempted to watch the movie adaptation with baby Drew Barrymore, but the reviews are crap, with the least forgivable word spotted throughout: bland. It would make a good movie.
I'm not as much a fan of early era King, but it is a damned shame that so many of his books were given such shoddy treatment by Hollywood. Curiously, I think Hollywood does a better job with his more recent stuff now than the original material. He may have achieved well-deserved respect, but I find he's a clumsier storyteller now.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 7:13pm
by Dr. Medulla
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Gave up on Ellroy several days ago. Just not feeling it. So I've been listening to this monster (like, 45+ hours). Good stuff so far. It's funny how people on the right (mostly) love those outsiders who are going to shake up Washington. Jimmy Carter was a genuine outsider who didn't give a fuck about the insiders. And they ain't him alive. It's also hard not to be impressed by Reagan's insights and abilities in performing before crowds. The guy was a damned craftsman. One can loathe much of what he represented, but the guy was a really good politician.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 5:13pm
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 7:13pm
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Gave up on Ellroy several days ago. Just not feeling it. So I've been listening to this monster (like, 45+ hours). Good stuff so far. It's funny how people on the right (mostly) love those outsiders who are going to shake up Washington. Jimmy Carter was a genuine outsider who didn't give a fuck about the insiders. And they ain't him alive. It's also hard not to be impressed by Reagan's insights and abilities in performing before crowds. The guy was a damned craftsman. One can loathe much of what he represented, but the guy was a really good politician.
He was just better at politics than Carter, if far, far worse in his ultimate goals.

Re: Whatcha reading?

Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 5:25pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
04 Oct 2020, 5:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 7:13pm
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Gave up on Ellroy several days ago. Just not feeling it. So I've been listening to this monster (like, 45+ hours). Good stuff so far. It's funny how people on the right (mostly) love those outsiders who are going to shake up Washington. Jimmy Carter was a genuine outsider who didn't give a fuck about the insiders. And they ain't him alive. It's also hard not to be impressed by Reagan's insights and abilities in performing before crowds. The guy was a damned craftsman. One can loathe much of what he represented, but the guy was a really good politician.
He was just better at politics than Carter, if far, far worse in his ultimate goals.
Perlstein made a rather astute observation that in 1976 Carter ran in a way that conservatives and liberals could each see their interests served by him. That may have worked to get elected, but it assured that both sides would feel betrayed and angry when he actually began governing.