Re: Whatcha reading?
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 3:33am
Has anyone read this? Thinking it may be of interest to (at least) Doc and Mrs. B:
No, I don't know that one. I've read The Heebie Jeebies at CBGB's and a couple articles that try to link processing the Holocaust to punk. I'll see if I can find an eBook of this one, tho. Thanks!
Hello,
Very cool! That's a concept for these books that I definitely endorse. A punk one would be very appreciated for my seminar in the future. I'll be hunting this one down regardless.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 3:35pm
33 1/3 has started doing genre-based books, of which this is one of the first in a series of (I hope) many more. I think you might like this one Doc, even though it's not really your wheelhouse—it's definitely a book that's more analysis than celebration. The central thesis is basically about how important collectivism to experimental creation, especially with regard to minority communities, in the face of gentrification and the commodification and weakening of the creation in question. Gentrification being an enemy of the small basement clubs in which the music and community is created, and commodification being the means through which the vibrantly experimental creation (heavily influenced by dub) is turned into speaker fodder for department stores (becoming basically lounge music). Not a super unique viewpoint, especially for electronic subgenres, but the context of its creation by Caribbean/English communities makes it a worthwhile examination, I think.
Looking forward to the upcoming Dance Punk book, which I think will talk about PiL, Go4, mutant disco of NY, etc.
On the conceptual note, I've really been excited for the Tin Drum (Japan) one, which is supposed to take a look at cultural appropriation/appreciation and the exotifying/mythologizing of "the Orient." However, it's been pushed back a couple times, and doesn't appear on their list of upcoming titles anymore. However, I just checked, and it looks like Sandinista! is on the list, so holy shit, that could be a very good one if it's done well.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 4:02pmVery cool! That's a concept for these books that I definitely endorse. A punk one would be very appreciated for my seminar in the future. I'll be hunting this one down regardless.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 3:35pm
33 1/3 has started doing genre-based books, of which this is one of the first in a series of (I hope) many more. I think you might like this one Doc, even though it's not really your wheelhouse—it's definitely a book that's more analysis than celebration. The central thesis is basically about how important collectivism to experimental creation, especially with regard to minority communities, in the face of gentrification and the commodification and weakening of the creation in question. Gentrification being an enemy of the small basement clubs in which the music and community is created, and commodification being the means through which the vibrantly experimental creation (heavily influenced by dub) is turned into speaker fodder for department stores (becoming basically lounge music). Not a super unique viewpoint, especially for electronic subgenres, but the context of its creation by Caribbean/English communities makes it a worthwhile examination, I think.
Looking forward to the upcoming Dance Punk book, which I think will talk about PiL, Go4, mutant disco of NY, etc.
edit: I get emails from Bloomsbury Academic every day. Maybe if I looked at them I would have known about this.
Those books are really useful when done as a framing device to talk about wider topics. When it's just a celebration of an album, meh, I get bored fast.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 4:16pmOn the conceptual note, I've really been excited for the Tin Drum (Japan) one, which is supposed to take a look at cultural appropriation/appreciation and the exotifying/mythologizing of "the Orient." However, it's been pushed back a couple times, and doesn't appear on their list of upcoming titles anymore. However, I just checked, and it looks like Sandinista! is on the list, so holy shit, that could be a very good one if it's done well.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 4:02pmVery cool! That's a concept for these books that I definitely endorse. A punk one would be very appreciated for my seminar in the future. I'll be hunting this one down regardless.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 3:35pm
33 1/3 has started doing genre-based books, of which this is one of the first in a series of (I hope) many more. I think you might like this one Doc, even though it's not really your wheelhouse—it's definitely a book that's more analysis than celebration. The central thesis is basically about how important collectivism to experimental creation, especially with regard to minority communities, in the face of gentrification and the commodification and weakening of the creation in question. Gentrification being an enemy of the small basement clubs in which the music and community is created, and commodification being the means through which the vibrantly experimental creation (heavily influenced by dub) is turned into speaker fodder for department stores (becoming basically lounge music). Not a super unique viewpoint, especially for electronic subgenres, but the context of its creation by Caribbean/English communities makes it a worthwhile examination, I think.
Looking forward to the upcoming Dance Punk book, which I think will talk about PiL, Go4, mutant disco of NY, etc.
edit: I get emails from Bloomsbury Academic every day. Maybe if I looked at them I would have known about this.
I'll have a go at that, looks really good.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 3:35pm
33 1/3 has started doing genre-based books, of which this is one of the first in a series of (I hope) many more. I think you might like this one Doc, even though it's not really your wheelhouse—it's definitely a book that's more analysis than celebration. The central thesis is basically about how important collectivism to experimental creation, especially with regard to minority communities, in the face of gentrification and the commodification and weakening of the creation in question. Gentrification being an enemy of the small basement clubs in which the music and community is created, and commodification being the means through which the vibrantly experimental creation (heavily influenced by dub) is turned into speaker fodder for department stores (becoming basically lounge music). Not a super unique viewpoint, especially for electronic subgenres, but the context of its creation by Caribbean/English communities makes it a worthwhile examination, I think.
Looking forward to the upcoming Dance Punk book, which I think will talk about PiL, Go4, mutant disco of NY, etc.
It's written by the same author who did the Portishead one, if you happened to read that. One of the best in the series, I thought.Silent Majority wrote: ↑15 Dec 2022, 6:14amI'll have a go at that, looks really good.Kory wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 3:35pm
33 1/3 has started doing genre-based books, of which this is one of the first in a series of (I hope) many more. I think you might like this one Doc, even though it's not really your wheelhouse—it's definitely a book that's more analysis than celebration. The central thesis is basically about how important collectivism to experimental creation, especially with regard to minority communities, in the face of gentrification and the commodification and weakening of the creation in question. Gentrification being an enemy of the small basement clubs in which the music and community is created, and commodification being the means through which the vibrantly experimental creation (heavily influenced by dub) is turned into speaker fodder for department stores (becoming basically lounge music). Not a super unique viewpoint, especially for electronic subgenres, but the context of its creation by Caribbean/English communities makes it a worthwhile examination, I think.
Looking forward to the upcoming Dance Punk book, which I think will talk about PiL, Go4, mutant disco of NY, etc.
Ha! Wonderful analogy. I was never wowed by his stand-up pre-sitcom, but, man, the bits I've seen in the last decade or so are just dire.Silent Majority wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 3:15pmSeinfeld continues to bring the spirit of the owner of a small businessman's consulting firm to comedy and it shows.