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Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 8:03am
by Low Down Low
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:58am
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:43am
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:36am
Although if you start early enough and pace yourself 10/day is doable I imagine.
Roughly a drink every hour and a half from when you get up to go to bed. Doable for a while, I guess, but, damn, that's a young man's liver's game.
Yeah scientifically possible but also doing that every day? Better switch to the cheap stuff too as that getting costly.
I would guess that is pretty much what "functioning" alcoholics do, otherwise i can't see how anyone could get through the day. It's a concept i could never grasp, drinking and functioning to any acceptable professional level were never compatible for me.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 8:55am
by matedog
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:36am
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:26am
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:20am
Just can't compute those figures. 10 drinks a day is roughly the equivalent of a bottle of vodka, whisky, gin etc, right? I know there are folk who drink more than that, but 10% of the population? That's eye-popping if true. Even in my hardest drinking years, i wouldn't have lived a month on that regime.
The definition of a drink must be very small. I remember in a history class, being told that Voltaire drank, like, 50 cups of coffee a day, which made everyone gasp. But then we found out they were tiny, tiny cups. It was still a lot of coffee but it wasn't a conveyor belt of the stuff.
Typically a drink is referred to as a shot, a beer, or a glass of wine, all roughly the equivalent of one oz of alcohol.
10/day is crazy. Th resulting hangover would lead me to not drink again for at least a week.
Although if you start early enough and pace yourself 10/day is doable I imagine.
I guess it’s the notion that 10% of the population are pretty serious alcoholics that I don’t buy. I don’t know a single person that drinks THAT heavily. The source seems a little suspect too based on the Amazon reviews.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 10:21am
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 8:55am
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:36am
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:26am
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:20am
Just can't compute those figures. 10 drinks a day is roughly the equivalent of a bottle of vodka, whisky, gin etc, right? I know there are folk who drink more than that, but 10% of the population? That's eye-popping if true. Even in my hardest drinking years, i wouldn't have lived a month on that regime.
The definition of a drink must be very small. I remember in a history class, being told that Voltaire drank, like, 50 cups of coffee a day, which made everyone gasp. But then we found out they were tiny, tiny cups. It was still a lot of coffee but it wasn't a conveyor belt of the stuff.
Typically a drink is referred to as a shot, a beer, or a glass of wine, all roughly the equivalent of one oz of alcohol.
10/day is crazy. Th resulting hangover would lead me to not drink again for at least a week.
Although if you start early enough and pace yourself 10/day is doable I imagine.
I guess it’s the notion that 10% of the population are pretty serious alcoholics that I don’t buy. I don’t know a single person that drinks THAT heavily. The source seems a little suspect too based on the Amazon reviews.
Everything looks suspicious when you think about it!
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 11:12am
by Flex
I imagine it's all self-reported as well, which makes the data probably kinda garbage. Could be in both directions too tho. "one serving of alcohol" has a standard meaning but in real life almost no one bases their consumption decisions on an accurate measurement of, like, how many actual measured serving of alcohol they're having. It's easy to imagine that the people who are drinking a lot are actually drinking even more than what they're reporting because there's a a great chance you don't REALLY know how many servings of alcohol you're having in a drinking session. And that's not even getting into people's own sense of self-delusion. I know when my drinking was at its worst, I'd have said to anyone who asked that I was drinking much less than I really was because lots of people tell themselves lies that fit the self-conception that they want to have about themselves. I'm honestly a little skeptical of the like .63 drinks per week type crowd.
All that said, like everyone else, i literally can't imagine 73.85 drinks per week. Even when I was hitting it the hardest, I don't think I was getting those numbers.
Anyways, 8th and 9th decile seems like the fun crowd.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 12:30pm
by BostonBeaneater
matedog wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 8:55am
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:36am
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:26am
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 7:20am
Just can't compute those figures. 10 drinks a day is roughly the equivalent of a bottle of vodka, whisky, gin etc, right? I know there are folk who drink more than that, but 10% of the population? That's eye-popping if true. Even in my hardest drinking years, i wouldn't have lived a month on that regime.
The definition of a drink must be very small. I remember in a history class, being told that Voltaire drank, like, 50 cups of coffee a day, which made everyone gasp. But then we found out they were tiny, tiny cups. It was still a lot of coffee but it wasn't a conveyor belt of the stuff.
Typically a drink is referred to as a shot, a beer, or a glass of wine, all roughly the equivalent of one oz of alcohol.
10/day is crazy. Th resulting hangover would lead me to not drink again for at least a week.
Although if you start early enough and pace yourself 10/day is doable I imagine.
I guess it’s the notion that 10% of the population are pretty serious alcoholics that I don’t buy. I don’t know a single person that drinks THAT heavily. The source seems a little suspect too based on the Amazon reviews.
A lot of drunks hide it very well. This graph is a bit misleading I think. A martini has about 3 oz of booze in it, is that three drinks? A beer can be 12 oz. or 16 oz and 4.5% ABV or 10% ABV. Wine pours are all over the place. What is a drink?
I enjoy a drink now and again, beer in particular. 10 real full drinks a day would kill me
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 12:40pm
by Flex
There's a reason liquor stores were allowed to stay open during the initial covid shutdown a couple years back: public health officials worried (rightly, it seems) that closing those stores for a handful of weeks would result in a mass alcohol withdrawal crisis of such magnitude that our health system wouldn't be able to handle it. Lotta alcoholics out there.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like, a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 1:38pm
by JennyB
As I have gotten older, I drink less and less. I just don't enjoy the taste enough and I don't tolerate alcohol well. I still have a beer on occasion, but we are talking maybe four times a year. I would definitely die if I had ten drinks in one day.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 1:46pm
by Dr. Medulla
JennyB wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 1:38pm
As I have gotten older, I drink less and less. I just don't enjoy the taste enough and I don't tolerate alcohol well. I still have a beer on occasion, but we are talking maybe four times a year. I would definitely die if I had ten drinks in one day.
The Boss doesn't drink that often anymore, and maddeningly will just fucking nurse that one drink all goddamned evening. "I can finish that if you aren't going to …" "No, I'm enjoying it." "You haven't touched it in a half hour!"
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 2:53pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like, a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was
the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
Yeah Ive worked with a few people. The type who go out to their car durimg the day to knock back a bit. I worked in this place where there wwas a high circulation of fresh air but walk into the room and you could smell it immediately even when he was on the other side of the room. When its coming out your very pores its hard to hide.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:04pm
by Dr. Medulla
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 2:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like, a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was
the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
Yeah Ive worked with a few people. The type who go out to their car durimg the day to knock back a bit. I worked in this place where there wwas a high circulation of fresh air but walk into the room and you could smell it immediately even when he was on the other side of the room. When its coming out your very pores its hard to hide.
I remember him telling me that his wife said to him, "Ugh, you smell like a brewery." He replied, "No, I smell like a distillery. I'm drinking rye."
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:35pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 3:04pm
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 2:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like, a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was
the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
Yeah Ive worked with a few people. The type who go out to their car durimg the day to knock back a bit. I worked in this place where there wwas a high circulation of fresh air but walk into the room and you could smell it immediately even when he was on the other side of the room. When its coming out your very pores its hard to hide.
I remember him telling me that his wife said to him, "Ugh, you smell like a brewery." He replied, "No, I smell like a distillery. I'm drinking rye."
Yeah its usually the boozers, I suppose it could happen with beer but Ive only known it to happen with boozers.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 3:35pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 3:04pm
revbob wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 2:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like, a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was
the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
Yeah Ive worked with a few people. The type who go out to their car durimg the day to knock back a bit. I worked in this place where there wwas a high circulation of fresh air but walk into the room and you could smell it immediately even when he was on the other side of the room. When its coming out your very pores its hard to hide.
I remember him telling me that his wife said to him, "Ugh, you smell like a brewery." He replied, "No, I smell like a distillery. I'm drinking rye."
Yeah its usually the boozers, I suppose it could happen with beer but Ive only known it to happen with boozers.
Less weight gain with liquor—a bit easier to hide your crisis.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 4:49pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like,
a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
As I recall, that's exactly the Bukowski diet.
I drink between 16–24 glasses a week, which is roughly 2–3 bottles of wine and maybe some shots of bourbon, spread out over three days. I can see the number being as high as it is there because a lot of people use drinking as a hangover cure and then it slippery slopes into full-time status.
Re: Thread O'Booze REVISED!
Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 5:12pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 4:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 12:47pm
A former friend of mine, as he was speeding to the bottom, was drinking as much as the top bracket—like,
a bottle of whisky and a six of beer pretty much every day—and when I'd talk to him on the phone he sounded perfectly sober. The giveaway, he later told me, was the smell. He just oozed booze. (Unless he's relapsed, which I can't see happening, he's a good 15 years sober now.)
As I recall, that's exactly the Bukowski diet.
I drink between 16–24 glasses a week, which is roughly 2–3 bottles of wine and maybe some shots of bourbon, spread out over three days. I can see the number being as high as it is there because
a lot of people use drinking as a hangover cure and then it slippery slopes into full-time status.
I cannot fathom that at all. The very very completely ultra last thing my body can take during a hangover is more booze.
