Return of the Mighty Observations Thread

[Dr. Medulla]

I for one feel sarcasm has no place on this board.

[Marky Dread]

When I've had to give that kind of feedback to students, I've always framed it as me wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt as much as possible, but they've given me little wiggle room. There is some truth to my position, but strategically it places them as the primary actors in it all, that I'm simply responding to conditions they've created.

Hello,

Do you actually try to make students responsible for their learning? Has your Dean been informed of this?

I'm not following. What makes you think I don't hold them responsible? What I say to them is, in fact, that they are responsible for the results. I'm say that when I deliver bad news, it's not on me, it's on them—they're the active participants, I'm the respondent to what they've done.

I think gkbill was being sarcastic

I for one feel sarcasm has no place on this board.

If there was no sarcasm on this board I would've left years ago.

[gkbill]

When I've had to give that kind of feedback to students, I've always framed it as me wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt as much as possible, but they've given me little wiggle room. There is some truth to my position, but strategically it places them as the primary actors in it all, that I'm simply responding to conditions they've created.

Hello,

Do you actually try to make students responsible for their learning? Has your Dean been informed of this?

I'm not following. What makes you think I don't hold them responsible? What I say to them is, in fact, that they are responsible for the results. I'm say that when I deliver bad news, it's not on me, it's on them—they're the active participants, I'm the respondent to what they've done.

Hello,

I apologize - I was being sarcastic. Many students feel it's the teacher's responsibility to teach and learning ends there. Many students then go on to higher levels and complain about the faculty member.

I see it now and apologize for reading it so literally and uncharitably. Mea culpa. One of the lines I've used from time to time is that that the key to passing the class is trying to do so. Trying alone probably won't get you an A, but if you don't try, you're probably heading to an F, because if there's one thing that unites every F I've had to award, it's that the people weren't trying to learn or to engage. And I don't know if I've ever failed someone who did make a good faith effort.

Hello,

I generally do the same - but for non-majors. Majors are a bit trickier. Majors need a C- or better to avoid retaking the class. If you're a major, you need the information for your future career. I tend to be a bit more of a stickler - but still work with them to help them succeed.

[Dr. Medulla]

Hello,

Do you actually try to make students responsible for their learning? Has your Dean been informed of this?

I'm not following. What makes you think I don't hold them responsible? What I say to them is, in fact, that they are responsible for the results. I'm say that when I deliver bad news, it's not on me, it's on them—they're the active participants, I'm the respondent to what they've done.

Hello,

I apologize - I was being sarcastic. Many students feel it's the teacher's responsibility to teach and learning ends there. Many students then go on to higher levels and complain about the faculty member.

I see it now and apologize for reading it so literally and uncharitably. Mea culpa. One of the lines I've used from time to time is that that the key to passing the class is trying to do so. Trying alone probably won't get you an A, but if you don't try, you're probably heading to an F, because if there's one thing that unites every F I've had to award, it's that the people weren't trying to learn or to engage. And I don't know if I've ever failed someone who did make a good faith effort.

Hello,

I generally do the same - but for non-majors. Majors are a bit trickier. Majors need a C- or better to avoid retaking the class. If you're a major, you need the information for your future career. I tend to be a bit more of a stickler - but still work with them to help them succeed.

Yeah, true, and your end goal in your field is a bit different than mine. But, however unconciously, I do have higher expectations of history majors than those taking a course as an elective.

[Dr. Medulla]

[Flex]

Haha, I was always orange or green (when i couldn't get out of a dance altogether)

[Dr. Medulla]

Haha, I was always orange or green (when i couldn't get out of a dance altogether)

I was totally orange, but the gods of pity did throw bones my way more than a few times. And then I showed my geeky white 80s kid moves on the floor, reducing the girls to apathy.

[Sparky]

Orange here as well. Shoot, in junior high ALL boys were orange, so no real surprise here.