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Dr. Medulla wrote:
07 Jan 2022, 3:22pm
Flex wrote:
07 Jan 2022, 3:10pm
Been rewatching Picard, it's even better than I'd remembered. A rewatch rewards being able to see how carefully the series layers in the major questions from the TNG era of Star Trek: what does it mean to be human, to have humanity, and to embody the best ideals of said humanity?

ST:P really dialogues with, and carries on, direct plotlines from TNG in terms of android humanity, borg liberation, the evolution of romulan society and one critical theme from DS9 which is the institutional decay of the Federation.

Star Trek works well when dealing with decaying or corrupt institutions (and has engaged with such in some fashion throughout the run of the franchise, in different ways), and what sets ST apart (generally) is rejecting the premise that that decay and corruption is somehow necessary or (worse) secretly the noble position to take.

I've watched at least bits of all the new Trek series, and enjoy them all, but for all the chatter I see online about how Lower Decks carries on the spirit of TNG (and in some ways it does), Picard is the one that really seriously engages with the best and most important themes from TNG.

Can't wait for the next season.
Fully agreed. Having a respected old man as the central figure gives the story gravitas and keeps it from being wholly an action story. It had to be more thoughtful in approach. I can't imagine Stewart coming back if it weren't going to be more meditative.
The guy is an all-time actor, something that is unfairly diminished by some because is biggest role is a sci-fi character. Without being too overbearing he applied Shakespearian cantor to a show about a space ship. It's hard not to love the guy.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
07 Jan 2022, 3:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
07 Jan 2022, 3:22pm
Flex wrote:
07 Jan 2022, 3:10pm
Been rewatching Picard, it's even better than I'd remembered. A rewatch rewards being able to see how carefully the series layers in the major questions from the TNG era of Star Trek: what does it mean to be human, to have humanity, and to embody the best ideals of said humanity?

ST:P really dialogues with, and carries on, direct plotlines from TNG in terms of android humanity, borg liberation, the evolution of romulan society and one critical theme from DS9 which is the institutional decay of the Federation.

Star Trek works well when dealing with decaying or corrupt institutions (and has engaged with such in some fashion throughout the run of the franchise, in different ways), and what sets ST apart (generally) is rejecting the premise that that decay and corruption is somehow necessary or (worse) secretly the noble position to take.

I've watched at least bits of all the new Trek series, and enjoy them all, but for all the chatter I see online about how Lower Decks carries on the spirit of TNG (and in some ways it does), Picard is the one that really seriously engages with the best and most important themes from TNG.

Can't wait for the next season.
Fully agreed. Having a respected old man as the central figure gives the story gravitas and keeps it from being wholly an action story. It had to be more thoughtful in approach. I can't imagine Stewart coming back if it weren't going to be more meditative.
The guy is an all-time actor, something that is unfairly diminished by some because is biggest role is a sci-fi character. Without being too overbearing he applied Shakespearian cantor to a show about a space ship. It's hard not to love the guy.
And handles himself with humility and good humour off-camera. The kind of person who deserves to be a role model.
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We're catching up with this season of Picard—solid, old-style save-the-universe kind of stuff—and enjoyed this callback:
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Weirdly, he actually looks like DeForest Kelley in a couple of those.
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Silent Majority wrote:
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Weirdly, he actually looks like DeForest Kelley in a couple of those.
I'm a doctor, not a BLANK.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Apr 2022, 11:21am
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Man, Family Guy is almost totally unwatchable but there's such sheer joke volume that every once in a while a gem lands.
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Watched the end of Picard, Season 2. What started off as interesting turned into really dumb fan service, connect all kinds of unnecessary dots. Like, apparently everything in Star Trek comes down to five people and their ancestors. The last three or four episodes were fundamentally hate-watched in our house.
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Damn. Hadn't really geared up for season two yet, disappointing to hear after season one was so good. Really, picard could have just been a 1-off miniseries.

I'm probably more excited for Strange New Worlds. Anson Mount and crew were some of the best parts of season 2 of DISCO and the trailers all make it look like delightful adventure.
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Flex wrote:
07 May 2022, 9:18am
Damn. Hadn't really geared up for season two yet, disappointing to hear after season one was so good. Really, picard could have just been a 1-off miniseries.

I'm probably more excited for Strange New Worlds. Anson Mount and crew were some of the best parts of season 2 of DISCO and the trailers all make it look like delightful adventure.
Yeah Doc just ruined it for me too.

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Spock's wrist flamethrowers were, unfortunately, underutilized.
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