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Re: Star Wars

Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 5:08pm
by Dr. Medulla
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Re: Star Wars

Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 5:11pm
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2021, 5:08pm
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Hmm, that's thought-provoking.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 5:16pm
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2021, 5:11pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2021, 5:08pm
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Hmm, that's thought-provoking.
It's almost like people who treat these movies as delivering serious life lessons might be deluding themselves.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 12 Feb 2021, 3:28am
by Kimmelweck

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 04 Apr 2021, 1:19pm
by Dr. Medulla
As tends to be the case on long weekends, one channel or another does a Star Wars marathon. Just watched Rogue One and, god damn, it keeps moving up my list of SW films. It's still fundamentally fanfic and unnecessary pothole filling in terms of the wider story, but the execution and mood—shit is way darker yet more romantic than any other SW flick—and is so damned good. Heroism and sacrifice of the unheralded. The original trilogy has a decades-old hold on me, but taking a step back, I could make an argument that Rogue One is the best of the films.

edit: A New Hope is on now. I'm sure I've said this before, but Sand People really sounds like a slur. Especially when they're also known as Tusken Raiders, which I assume is an occupation of some Tuskens. If you're referring to Tuskens as Sand People, yea, you're a bigot. Looking at you, Obi Wan and Luke, fucking religious nuts.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 04 Apr 2021, 3:56pm
by Wolter
The last hour of Rogue One is pretty much some of the best space combat ever shown in sci-fi films.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 8:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
Another long weekend, another SW marathon, another rewatch of Rogue One. The thing that drew my attention this time was how downgraded the Force was. It's basically just faith and a mantra. Aside from Vader doing his shit, the Force isn't relevant at all to the story. It's desperate and self-sacrificing rebels against technological evil. In its own way, it's a serious fuck-you to Lucas' half-baked spiritualism.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 9:06pm
by Kimmelweck
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Oct 2021, 8:47pm
Another long weekend, another SW marathon, another rewatch of Rogue One. The thing that drew my attention this time was how downgraded the Force was. It's basically just faith and a mantra. Aside from Vader doing his shit, the Force isn't relevant at all to the story. It's desperate and self-sacrificing rebels against technological evil. In its own way, it's a serious fuck-you to Lucas' half-baked spiritualism.
Love Rogue One. Third best SW movie after ANH and Empire. I especially love that it gets the Star Wars color scheme right. 98% natural/earth tones (black, white, gray, browns, a bit of sky blue and green vegetation) with bright colors like red and yellow used sparingly, mostly for control panel lights. Visually, it fits right in with the movies that made me love Star Wars in the first place.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 9:22pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kimmelweck wrote:
10 Oct 2021, 9:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Oct 2021, 8:47pm
Another long weekend, another SW marathon, another rewatch of Rogue One. The thing that drew my attention this time was how downgraded the Force was. It's basically just faith and a mantra. Aside from Vader doing his shit, the Force isn't relevant at all to the story. It's desperate and self-sacrificing rebels against technological evil. In its own way, it's a serious fuck-you to Lucas' half-baked spiritualism.
Love Rogue One. Third best SW movie after ANH and Empire. I especially love that it gets the Star Wars color scheme right. 98% natural/earth tones (black, white, gray, browns, a bit of sky blue and green vegetation) with bright colors like red and yellow used sparingly, mostly for control panel lights. Visually, it fits right in with the movies that made me love Star Wars in the first place.
I've said before that I wasn't overly impressed when I saw it in the theatre, but subsequent rewatches has it up there with New Hope and Empire. It's total fanfic, but it is done so fucking well. When you know that the heroes have to die yet you're still riveted, that's good storytelling.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 2:53pm
by weller259
I guess this is a bad time to mention that I have never seen any Star Wars movies and will never watch any Star Wars movies.
I do like Star Trek, a lot actually, up to DS9 and Voyager.
I'd much rather watch Spaceballs.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 8:55pm
by Dr. Medulla
Watched the first episode of The Book of Robert "Bob" A. Fett this evening. Didn't grab the way The Mandalorian—most of it was dedicated to Robert's escape from the Sarlac after Jedi—but neither did it bore or seem pointless.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 10:32pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 8:55pm
Watched the first episode of The Book of Robert "Bob" A. Fett this evening. Didn't grab the way The Mandalorian—most of it was dedicated to Robert's escape from the Sarlac after Jedi—but neither did it bore or seem pointless.
I'll follow Ming-Na Wen anywhere.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 09 Jan 2022, 12:28pm
by Dr. Medulla
After two episodes of Boba Fett, it's pretty clear that the series is portraying Tuskens as stand-ins for 19th/20th c North American indigenous people, marginalized and evicted from their ancestors' land. There is zero reason to think Lucas had the same intention when he used them, but their portrayal in his films as anti-civilization predatory monsters is pretty ugh in this light. As with pretty much all things Star Wars, if you think too hard about this stuff, it's not pleasant at all.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 09 Jan 2022, 9:28pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jan 2022, 12:28pm
After two episodes of Boba Fett, it's pretty clear that the series is portraying Tuskens as stand-ins for 19th/20th c North American indigenous people, marginalized and evicted from their ancestors' land. There is zero reason to think Lucas had the same intention when he used them, but their portrayal in his films as anti-civilization predatory monsters is pretty ugh in this light. As with pretty much all things Star Wars, if you think too hard about this stuff, it's not pleasant at all.
With Lucas I thought they were stand-ins for Arabs.

Either way it was good to see them not portrayed as 1 dimensional horror creatures.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: 09 Jan 2022, 9:44pm
by Kimmelweck
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jan 2022, 12:28pm
After two episodes of Boba Fett, it's pretty clear that the series is portraying Tuskens as stand-ins for 19th/20th c North American indigenous people, marginalized and evicted from their ancestors' land. There is zero reason to think Lucas had the same intention when he used them, but their portrayal in his films as anti-civilization predatory monsters is pretty ugh in this light. As with pretty much all things Star Wars, if you think too hard about this stuff, it's not pleasant at all.
I recently read that in an earlier draft, Lucas originally intended the Tuskens to be non-native Imperial spies, and they only became a Tatooine native race in a later draft.