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The Political Gun Thread
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I don't even think that would work. It is an insane article of faith that any kind of restricted access to a means of killing somebody is death itself. If there were an amnesty/buy-back of guns (like what Australia did), I doubt it'd make much of a dent in the private arsenal that infects the US. You don't treat rationally people whose view of the world is irrational. And if you think a firearm is a legitimate tool of civil society, yeah, fuck you, you're irrational. Your mind is a swamp and your soul can decompose there.revbob wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 7:49pm$$$ is the only thing that will persuade themDr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 5:11pmAnd yet, to those whose minds need to be changed, that will do nothing. The people who die are irrelevant. How they die is irrelevant. I no longer believe it's worth trying to persuade them.JennyB wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 3:32pmI defy anyone to get through this without either crying or being profoundly shaken or both. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/i ... &itid=gfta
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I specifically mean the politicians vs the everyday asshole who wont give up their guns.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 8:12pmI don't even think that would work. It is an insane article of faith that any kind of restricted access to a means of killing somebody is death itself. If there were an amnesty/buy-back of guns (like what Australia did), I doubt it'd make much of a dent in the private arsenal that infects the US. You don't treat rationally people whose view of the world is irrational. And if you think a firearm is a legitimate tool of civil society, yeah, fuck you, you're irrational. Your mind is a swamp and your soul can decompose there.revbob wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 7:49pm$$$ is the only thing that will persuade themDr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 5:11pmAnd yet, to those whose minds need to be changed, that will do nothing. The people who die are irrelevant. How they die is irrelevant. I no longer believe it's worth trying to persuade them.JennyB wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 3:32pmI defy anyone to get through this without either crying or being profoundly shaken or both. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/i ... &itid=gfta
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In a brute logic kind of way, yes, it's about money and being in the employ of the gun industry. I doubt all that many of those bastards are *that* sincere about gun worship. But eliminating money from the equation is even more unfathomable than making sure all Americans can acquire lots of high-powered weapons to kill kids.revbob wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 8:50pmI specifically mean the politicians vs the everyday asshole who wont give up their guns.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 8:12pmI don't even think that would work. It is an insane article of faith that any kind of restricted access to a means of killing somebody is death itself. If there were an amnesty/buy-back of guns (like what Australia did), I doubt it'd make much of a dent in the private arsenal that infects the US. You don't treat rationally people whose view of the world is irrational. And if you think a firearm is a legitimate tool of civil society, yeah, fuck you, you're irrational. Your mind is a swamp and your soul can decompose there.revbob wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 7:49pm$$$ is the only thing that will persuade themDr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 5:11pmAnd yet, to those whose minds need to be changed, that will do nothing. The people who die are irrelevant. How they die is irrelevant. I no longer believe it's worth trying to persuade them.JennyB wrote: ↑28 Mar 2023, 3:32pmI defy anyone to get through this without either crying or being profoundly shaken or both. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/i ... &itid=gfta
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And that's insulting to the piece of shit!
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And all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
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That doesn’t always work out like that gas station guy in Florida. Though I don’t remember if that was because people made enough of a fuss.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:01amAnd all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
Unless there are details missing, this is really really fucked up.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Castle defence will be invoked. It was this guy's property, not in a public space like the gas station, so he isn't obliged to retreat.matedog wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:11amThat doesn’t always work out like that gas station guy in Florida. Though I don’t remember if that was because people made enough of a fuss.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:01amAnd all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
Unless there are details missing, this is really really fucked up.
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Castle defense is the law of the land in Wisconsin and it's always blown my mind that I could kill someone on my property if I felt they were a threat and likely get away with it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:26amCastle defence will be invoked. It was this guy's property, not in a public space like the gas station, so he isn't obliged to retreat.matedog wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:11amThat doesn’t always work out like that gas station guy in Florida. Though I don’t remember if that was because people made enough of a fuss.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:01amAnd all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
Unless there are details missing, this is really really fucked up.
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I dont understand how any decent person could square themselves with the fact that they shot someone who absolutely meant them no harm. Do they in their head thinkWestwayKid wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:47amCastle defense is the law of the land in Wisconsin and it's always blown my mind that I could kill someone on my property if I felt they were a threat and likely get away with it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:26amCastle defence will be invoked. It was this guy's property, not in a public space like the gas station, so he isn't obliged to retreat.matedog wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:11amThat doesn’t always work out like that gas station guy in Florida. Though I don’t remember if that was because people made enough of a fuss.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:01amAnd all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
Unless there are details missing, this is really really fucked up.
the story that he was just coming to the door looking for his siblings is just some cover story and that he knows it was really an attempted home invasion or something?
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In our neighborhood there's a house with a sign on the porch that says something like "burglars, this house is armed. There's nothing in here worth losing your life over." Nothing worth losing your life over, but the family room television is worth killing someone over, I guess.
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Fuelled on a diet of fear and abstraction (that person isn’t a human being, it’s a monster) makes it really easy to do horrible things. It’s how militaries train people to kill—the enemy isn’t a real human being like you, they’re a monster who wants to kill you. The goal, whether it’s Fox News or military trainers or dictators, is to destroy any sense of commonality with the other side.revbob wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:56amI dont understand how any decent person could square themselves with the fact that they shot someone who absolutely meant them no harm. Do they in their head thinkWestwayKid wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:47amCastle defense is the law of the land in Wisconsin and it's always blown my mind that I could kill someone on my property if I felt they were a threat and likely get away with it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:26amCastle defence will be invoked. It was this guy's property, not in a public space like the gas station, so he isn't obliged to retreat.matedog wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:11amThat doesn’t always work out like that gas station guy in Florida. Though I don’t remember if that was because people made enough of a fuss.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:01am
And all the guy has to do is claim he was scared for his life and that'll be that. Curious that all these manly men with gunly guns get scared easily, tho.
Unless there are details missing, this is really really fucked up.
the story that he was just coming to the door looking for his siblings is just some cover story and that he knows it was really an attempted home invasion or something?
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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I often wonder what’s worse for the person who kills a burglar: living with the knowledge that you took a life over some stuff, or living with the belief that this was a righteous act.Flex wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 9:59amIn our neighborhood there's a house with a sign on the porch that says something like "burglars, this house is armed. There's nothing in here worth losing your life over." Nothing worth losing your life over, but the family room television is worth killing someone over, I guess.
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