The Future of the Democratic Party

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For the record I have been a down the line Dem voter for my whole voting life bar two times where I threw an independent a vote when the Dem was very unlikely to win. So I am coming to this after having been a defensive voter for about half my life.

Defensive voting seemed sensible to me but I look at where we are now and it seems as much of a failure as the idea that gun ownership prevents tyranny.
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eumaas wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 5:23pm
For the record I have been a down the line Dem voter for my whole voting life bar two times where I threw an independent a vote when the Dem was very unlikely to win. So I am coming to this after having been a defensive voter for about half my life.

Defensive voting seemed sensible to me but I look at where we are now and it seems as much of a failure as the idea that gun ownership prevents tyranny.
Maybe I’m old but I’m in any port in a storm mode (have been my whole life). An inch in the left direction is worth it right now. I think Biden suck and am afraid we have to wait out that set, they’ve got to die sometime.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 8:42pm
afraid we have to wait out that set, they’ve got to die sometime.
My actuarial table faith. Not that Xers are any great shakes, but I think our generation's flaws—chiefly a detached cynicism—is better than the hypocritical and selfish moralizing of the Boomers.
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Possible the rona will take out a good chunk of the gerontocracy.
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eumaas wrote:
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Possible the rona will take out a good chunk of the gerontocracy.
It's been observed that Fox News' disinformation campaign mostly endangers its core audience. It's like it's run by the tobacco industry.
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Gene and I were discussing on FB, but Joe's environmental plan as states on his website isn't awful tho it's insufficient: https://joebiden.com/climate

the problem is, his record and what he says on the trail is so much less than whats on the site. everyone should be skeptical that he'd keep any of his listed commitments. I actually think, if I was advising the campaign, this is a plank I'd start talking a lot about to build some bridges with his left flank. But, he probably won't do that until it's too late.

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eumaas wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 9:45pm
Possible the rona will take out a good chunk of the gerontocracy.
Thanks, Gene...

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 10:20pm
eumaas wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 9:45pm
Possible the rona will take out a good chunk of the gerontocracy.
Thanks, Gene...
I’m just kidding, man. I don’t want anybody to die.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 9:13pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 8:42pm
afraid we have to wait out that set, they’ve got to die sometime.
My actuarial table faith. Not that Xers are any great shakes, but I think our generation's flaws—chiefly a detached cynicism—is better than the hypocritical and selfish moralizing of the Boomers.
This is all anecdotal, but there are a LOT of racist Xers in my life and then there's Peter Bagge too.
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Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 1:02pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 9:13pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 8:42pm
afraid we have to wait out that set, they’ve got to die sometime.
My actuarial table faith. Not that Xers are any great shakes, but I think our generation's flaws—chiefly a detached cynicism—is better than the hypocritical and selfish moralizing of the Boomers.
This is all anecdotal, but there are a LOT of racist Xers in my life and then there's Peter Bagge too.
Of course. But I do think, as a whole, our generation is less lethal than the one in front of us.
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eumaas wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 10:57am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 10:20pm
eumaas wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 9:45pm
Possible the rona will take out a good chunk of the gerontocracy.
Thanks, Gene...
I’m just kidding, man. I don’t want anybody to die.
I know.

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Tulsi dropped out and endorsed Biden. I guess that means Biden is the Kremlin's candidate, huh?
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Tulsi dropped out and endorsed Biden. I guess that means Biden is the Kremlin's candidate, huh?
I'm quite sure Mr. Trump is the prefered candidate.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 12:51pm
eumaas wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 11:22am
Tulsi dropped out and endorsed Biden. I guess that means Biden is the Kremlin's candidate, huh?
I'm quite sure Mr. Trump is the prefered candidate.
I'm just making fun of the slew of comments that Tulsi was a Russian asset. I'm no Tulsi fan but that shit was pretty silly.
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eumaas wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 2:52pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 12:51pm
eumaas wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 11:22am
Tulsi dropped out and endorsed Biden. I guess that means Biden is the Kremlin's candidate, huh?
I'm quite sure Mr. Trump is the prefered candidate.
I'm just making fun of the slew of comments that Tulsi was a Russian asset. I'm no Tulsi fan but that shit was pretty silly.
It's all pretty silly isn't it? I saw your work situation and have heard similar tales from others. Top to bottom in public and private institutions I see a staggering lack of leadership. People love being in charge but are stunningly pitiful at making tough decisions.
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