The Future of the Democratic Party

[Dr. Medulla]

More Warren, explaining how the key to making a more civil society isn't by jacking up the police state: https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-war ... a8ea9645a/

[Flex]

More Warren, explaining how the key to making a more civil society isn't by jacking up the police state: https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-war ... a8ea9645a/

I learned on Twitter last night that all this positive chatter about Warren is a deliberate ploy by neo liberals to deny Sanders his rightful ascendency to the Democratic throne, and by sharing it we're rubes falling for the scam.

Addendum: that answer from Warren was great. She was, by a healthy margin, the best performer at the Town Halls last night.

[Dr. Medulla]

More Warren, explaining how the key to making a more civil society isn't by jacking up the police state: https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-war ... a8ea9645a/

I learned on Twitter last night that all this positive chatter about Warren is a deliberate ploy by neo liberals to deny Sanders his rightful ascendency to the Democratic throne, and by sharing it we're rubes falling for the scam.

Good to know that mouthbreather conspiracies aren't just for Curt Schilling.

[JennyB]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

[Silent Majority]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

[JennyB]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

Yep. As always.

[Flex]

Good to know that mouthbreather conspiracies aren't just for Curt Schilling.

I made this observation to Jon, but my take is that the Sanders fanbase was overrated as being cult-like in '16 and probably is being a little underrated in '20.

[Dr. Medulla]

Good to know that mouthbreather conspiracies aren't just for Curt Schilling.

I made this observation to Jon, but my take is that the Sanders fanbase was overrated as being cult-like in '16 and probably is being a little underrated in '20.

Which I find really weird. He was really valuable in 2016 because the only other option was Grandma Nixon. But with Warren in the primaries and several young people in Congress, his significance is blunted. He's still a valuable critic, but, Christ, he's so damned old. He merits support, but obsessive support? I don't get it.

[matedog]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

I actually fell for Mayor Pete for a week or so before quickly jumping off that bandwagon. The longer he's around, the more I realize he doesn't stand for anything beyond the establishment. Also, who the fuck voluntarily goes to Iraq in 2009? Particularly with his credentials at the time. Warren all the way for me, as of now.

Anyone have any thoughts about a running mate? Far less important, but it's interesting to consider what attributes would make for an ideal running mate.

[Silent Majority]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

I actually fell for Mayor Pete for a week or so before quickly jumping off that bandwagon. The longer he's around, the more I realize he doesn't stand for anything beyond the establishment. Also, who the fuck voluntarily goes to Iraq in 2009? Particularly with his credentials at the time. Warren all the way for me, as of now.

Anyone have any thoughts about a running mate? Far less important, but it's interesting to consider what attributes would make for an ideal running mate.

Warren /Sanders.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

I actually fell for Mayor Pete for a week or so before quickly jumping off that bandwagon. The longer he's around, the more I realize he doesn't stand for anything beyond the establishment. Also, who the fuck voluntarily goes to Iraq in 2009? Particularly with his credentials at the time. Warren all the way for me, as of now.

Anyone have any thoughts about a running mate? Far less important, but it's interesting to consider what attributes would make for an ideal running mate.

I speculated before that Beto is going to lead everyone's VP list. Young, Southern, charismatic, really ink blot-ish centrist.

[matedog]

I'm actually liking Warren a lot. It will be nice to (hopefully) vote for someone without holding my nose.

She's doing real good stuff, shame the mediocre guys are getting all the publicity.

I actually fell for Mayor Pete for a week or so before quickly jumping off that bandwagon. The longer he's around, the more I realize he doesn't stand for anything beyond the establishment. Also, who the fuck voluntarily goes to Iraq in 2009? Particularly with his credentials at the time. Warren all the way for me, as of now.

Anyone have any thoughts about a running mate? Far less important, but it's interesting to consider what attributes would make for an ideal running mate.

Warren /Sanders.

Those seem like to generally similar candidates - Northeast staunch progressives. I think, historically, Pres candidates try to pick someone that would garner enthusiasm at least geographically in a place that they would have a harder time.

Doc mentioned Beto, I might be okay with Mayor Pete as a VP candidate because VP doesn't really matter and he might gather some more moderate support due to his service. Or Kamala because of her anti-criminal justice reform history (which is pretty antithetical to the platform but some could spin as a more moderate/right wing aspect).

[Dr. Medulla]

With some exceptions (Clinton/Gore, notably), the VP selection is supposed to being balance by providing qualities that the candidate doesn't have. Age/youth, domestic/foreign, outsider/insider, northern/southern, wings of the party, etc. Doubling up on qualities is regarded as inefficient because if the candidate is already perceived as strong in foreign policy, a foreign policy VP candidate won't attract any additional voters. It's a dumb calculus that is basically checking off boxes. Clinton/Gore in 1992 was more notable because it was two Southern Boomers from the right side of the party—it was a statement about both the shift in the party and that Boomers (ugh) had arrived.

[Mimi]

Warren/Harris

Then all the media can create cat-fight headlines, because, as you know, two women can't ever get along.

[Flex]

I mean, it'll probably be like Biden / O'Rourke or Biden / Harris or something.