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matedog wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 1:09am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:56pm
Mimi wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:52pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:46pm
Mimi wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:34pm


I have a feeling this is much bigger than we can imagine.
Hopefully not in an apocalyptic way. :twitch:

Part of my hunch (okay, hope is probably more accurate) is that a lack of outrage and protest will shatter the belief that Trump holds his followers under a spell, and that will break the spell he has over the media.
The spell will break when he's dead and everyone stops seeing his face, hearing his name, and talking about him.
One of the things I keep coming back to is a piece on Nixon and Watergate, where he seemed to have a firm grip on the base and the party. Revelation after revelation and he was fine, and then suddenly he wasn't. So I keep wondering if there is a moment, something we aren't fully expecting, that exposes a weakening grip on the party.

But, hell, I'll take him having a heart attack on the toilet.
I was listening to a podcast recently that said the times this has been successful in modern democracies was when the indictments/crimes just kept piling up and slowly eroded the public. Basically, “he’s gotta be guilty of at least some of this. .”
What I often read from his defenders—not the ones that think he's innocent—is that, yeah, he's guilty but all politicians are guilty of worse, so it's unfair that he's being singled out. Hey, I don't have a problem with going after more political figures, so let's start with this one, not ignore something so obvious.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ewxx/ ... nhattan-da

This is intriguing. If a judge issued Trump et al a gag order, could he still resist not whining and threatening? And if so, would a judge haul him in over that?
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Totally not a cult.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 7:11am
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ewxx/ ... nhattan-da

This is intriguing. If a judge issued Trump et al a gag order, could he still resist not whining and threatening? And if so, would a judge haul him in over that?
A gag order on that POS would be a dream come true!
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Mimi wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 8:42am
Totally not a cult.
Compare that to expressions of devotion to Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, or Mao. Or Jim Jones or Sun Myung Moon. Yeah, totally not a cult.
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*snort*
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 6:31am
matedog wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 1:09am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:56pm
Mimi wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:52pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 7:46pm


Hopefully not in an apocalyptic way. :twitch:

Part of my hunch (okay, hope is probably more accurate) is that a lack of outrage and protest will shatter the belief that Trump holds his followers under a spell, and that will break the spell he has over the media.
The spell will break when he's dead and everyone stops seeing his face, hearing his name, and talking about him.
One of the things I keep coming back to is a piece on Nixon and Watergate, where he seemed to have a firm grip on the base and the party. Revelation after revelation and he was fine, and then suddenly he wasn't. So I keep wondering if there is a moment, something we aren't fully expecting, that exposes a weakening grip on the party.

But, hell, I'll take him having a heart attack on the toilet.
I was listening to a podcast recently that said the times this has been successful in modern democracies was when the indictments/crimes just kept piling up and slowly eroded the public. Basically, “he’s gotta be guilty of at least some of this. .”
What I often read from his defenders—not the ones that think he's innocent—is that, yeah, he's guilty but all politicians are guilty of worse, so it's unfair that he's being singled out. Hey, I don't have a problem with going after more political figures, so let's start with this one, not ignore something so obvious.
I saw that too. "Well we'll go after democrats now!" Cool, though they'll probably go after Obama for falsifying his birth certificate and not like war crimes.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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revbob wrote:
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Im hoping he skips off to Russia
You know, I was hoping for a massive coronary, but I think I prefer this. This will make him less of a martyr.
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JennyB wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 10:57am
revbob wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 8:34pm
Im hoping he skips off to Russia
You know, I was hoping for a massive coronary, but I think I prefer this. This will make him less of a martyr.
That's a bingo!

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It not being the war crimes or insurrections that do you in but the hush money to porn stars feels very AMERICAFUCKYEAH to me
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Flex wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 12:18pm
It not being the war crimes or insurrections that do you in but the hush money to porn stars feels very AMERICAFUCKYEAH to me
Just the way Jefferson and Madison drew it up!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:


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I love Randy! :lol:


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Mimi wrote:
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I love Randy! :lol:

Excellent! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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