Which might explain why this has been especially toxic—the conman is only partially in control of his con. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I assume grifters are more self-aware and know the difference between actual reality and the reality they're selling. They're above the game, so to speak. And maybe Trump in his younger days was like that. I dunno. But, yeah, it's hard not to conclude from various stories from people close to him that he's as much a mark of his con as he is the perpetrator.revbob wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:05pmSomething their leader has too.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 1:42pmEarly into the Trump years, I read a piece from a behavioural psychologist who said that one of the reasons why conmen succeed is that the kind of people who get sucked in by their promises don't respond with outrage at being fooled—as we'd expect—but assess what happened to exonerate the conman, to preserve the illusion that they haven't been duped. It takes a major shock to break the spell. We're battling not a desire to appreciate reality so much as a desire not to proven a dupe.
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I admit that I'm mildly curious why he digs a song by a multiracial band that celebrates being homosexual, especially as he flees the scene of the crime. But the last four years have confirmed that the answer is often that he's just a weird, random lunatic.
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He has no idea what the song is about. I doubt he actually listens to any music. He doesn't read. Doesn't have a dog. Probably doesn't even watch TV.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:29pm
I admit that I'm mildly curious why he digs a song by a multiracial band that celebrates being homosexual, especially as he flees the scene of the crime. But the last four years have confirmed that the answer is often that he's just a weird, random lunatic.
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My limited understanding is that he occasionally watches television.JennyB wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 4:11pmHe has no idea what the song is about. I doubt he actually listens to any music. He doesn't read. Doesn't have a dog. Probably doesn't even watch TV.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:29pm
I admit that I'm mildly curious why he digs a song by a multiracial band that celebrates being homosexual, especially as he flees the scene of the crime. But the last four years have confirmed that the answer is often that he's just a weird, random lunatic.
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He probably loved Two and a Half Men.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 4:15pmMy limited understanding is that he occasionally watches television.JennyB wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 4:11pmHe has no idea what the song is about. I doubt he actually listens to any music. He doesn't read. Doesn't have a dog. Probably doesn't even watch TV.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:29pm
I admit that I'm mildly curious why he digs a song by a multiracial band that celebrates being homosexual, especially as he flees the scene of the crime. But the last four years have confirmed that the answer is often that he's just a weird, random lunatic.
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Yup, I remember that shit from Psych 101 in the early 90s and have observed it from day 1 with Trump and his supporters. They’ve been in complete denial because it would shatter their long-cultivated self-image as super-patriots to believe they’ve supported a traitor and shyster. Subconsciously they must feel foolish as hell, but they can’t admit it to themselves so they double down endlessly. It’s even worse when it’s a large part of the population who then get stuck in their own giant feedback loop of denialism.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 1:42pmEarly into the Trump years, I read a piece from a behavioural psychologist who said that one of the reasons why conmen succeed is that the kind of people who get sucked in by their promises don't respond with outrage at being fooled—as we'd expect—but assess what happened to exonerate the conman, to preserve the illusion that they haven't been duped. It takes a major shock to break the spell. We're battling not a desire to appreciate reality so much as a desire not to proven a dupe.
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Yeah Ive been wondering to what degree he believes and buts into his own BS. And I think it depends and at any moment he's aware of it and other times he's his own dupe.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:22pmWhich might explain why this has been especially toxic—the conman is only partially in control of his con. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I assume grifters are more self-aware and know the difference between actual reality and the reality they're selling. They're above the game, so to speak. And maybe Trump in his younger days was like that. I dunno. But, yeah, it's hard not to conclude from various stories from people close to him that he's as much a mark of his con as he is the perpetrator.revbob wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 3:05pmSomething their leader has too.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 1:42pmEarly into the Trump years, I read a piece from a behavioural psychologist who said that one of the reasons why conmen succeed is that the kind of people who get sucked in by their promises don't respond with outrage at being fooled—as we'd expect—but assess what happened to exonerate the conman, to preserve the illusion that they haven't been duped. It takes a major shock to break the spell. We're battling not a desire to appreciate reality so much as a desire not to proven a dupe.
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How long has she been planning this?
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Meanwhile …
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I see the MAGA looney toons are still at it.
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Speaking truth to libtard power, yes.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/19/politics ... index.html
I think we're really going to enjoy Trump's pathetic coda.
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I know it's systemic and structural change that's important, not individuals, but the pleasure in seeing the Trump family crumble would be immense. Just cackling, mocking pleasure.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 12:00amhttps://www.cnn.com/2021/03/19/politics ... index.html
I think we're really going to enjoy Trump's pathetic coda.
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I never felt that way about anybody in my life...until now.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 6:56amI know it's systemic and structural change that's important, not individuals, but the pleasure in seeing the Trump family crumble would be immense. Just cackling, mocking pleasure.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 12:00amhttps://www.cnn.com/2021/03/19/politics ... index.html
I think we're really going to enjoy Trump's pathetic coda.