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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 8:54am
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12 Jan 2021, 8:28am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 7:36am
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12 Jan 2021, 7:17am
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Monday he will not be accepting the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Donald Trump, issuing a statement in which he referenced the mob attack on the US Capitol on Wednesday.

"The decision has been made not to move forward with the award," he said. "Above all, I am an American citizen with great reverence for our nation’s values, freedom and democracy."
This is probably the first time Ive had a positive feeling about BB.
I read a column this morning that said something to the same effect. He's respected him but this is the first time he's felt something warmer about BB. It's suggestive about his reputation that rejecting a medal from an insane fascist merits some kind of salute to his character.
It feels important that BB declined the award. Someone needed to do it and maybe it inspires others to do the same. People listen when it's someone like Belichick. If Gary "Yay for Apartheid" Player had turned it down last week I don't think it would have made nearly as big of a splash.
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WestwayKid wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 9:16am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 8:54am
revbob wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 8:28am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 7:36am
"All my evil friends are turning against me!"
revbob wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 7:17am
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Monday he will not be accepting the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Donald Trump, issuing a statement in which he referenced the mob attack on the US Capitol on Wednesday.

"The decision has been made not to move forward with the award," he said. "Above all, I am an American citizen with great reverence for our nation’s values, freedom and democracy."
This is probably the first time Ive had a positive feeling about BB.
I read a column this morning that said something to the same effect. He's respected him but this is the first time he's felt something warmer about BB. It's suggestive about his reputation that rejecting a medal from an insane fascist merits some kind of salute to his character.
It feels important that BB declined the award. Someone needed to do it and maybe it inspires others to do the same. People listen when it's someone like Belichick. If Gary "Yay for Apartheid" Player had turned it down last week I don't think it would have made nearly as big of a splash.
This is true. I said to my sister and nephew yesterday that conservatives of all stripes are in a position similar to liberals and socialists in the late 40s and 1950s, or Muslims in the 00s—the onus is on them to prove that they aren't with the assholes. There may be principled reasons to oppose what the tech companies are doing or other reasons to support tolerance or leniency, but they have to consider whether it's a fight worth having because in the court of public opinion, they'll be siding with the fascists. I'm not saying that this is correct or just—plenty of people had their lives ruined via guilt by association in the 50s or 00s—but that's how communities react to these kinds of threats. So conservatives need to demonstrate that they have more in common with liberals than with other groups who also oppose liberals. Maybe BB is sincere in this, maybe he's protecting his butt/job, but it's the kind of thing conservatives all over are going to be forced to do—make a public assertion of what side they're on, because the assumption of innocence isn't going to be there.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 9:31am
WestwayKid wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 9:16am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 8:54am
revbob wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 8:28am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 7:36am
"All my evil friends are turning against me!"

This is probably the first time Ive had a positive feeling about BB.
I read a column this morning that said something to the same effect. He's respected him but this is the first time he's felt something warmer about BB. It's suggestive about his reputation that rejecting a medal from an insane fascist merits some kind of salute to his character.
It feels important that BB declined the award. Someone needed to do it and maybe it inspires others to do the same. People listen when it's someone like Belichick. If Gary "Yay for Apartheid" Player had turned it down last week I don't think it would have made nearly as big of a splash.
This is true. I said to my sister and nephew yesterday that conservatives of all stripes are in a position similar to liberals and socialists in the late 40s and 1950s, or Muslims in the 00s—the onus is on them to prove that they aren't with the assholes. There may be principled reasons to oppose what the tech companies are doing or other reasons to support tolerance or leniency, but they have to consider whether it's a fight worth having because in the court of public opinion, they'll be siding with the fascists. I'm not saying that this is correct or just—plenty of people had their lives ruined via guilt by association in the 50s or 00s—but that's how communities react to these kinds of threats. So conservatives need to demonstrate that they have more in common with liberals than with other groups who also oppose liberals. Maybe BB is sincere in this, maybe he's protecting his butt/job, but it's the kind of thing conservatives all over are going to be forced to do—make a public assertion of what side they're on, because the assumption of innocence isn't going to be there.
Yeah you have to wonder how many people of his "stature" would line up for such a dubious honor, even now. I think plenty would.

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revbob wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 9:42am
Yeah you have to wonder how many people of his "stature" would line up for such a dubious honor, even now. I think plenty would.
And they're fools if they don't realize that most will regard them with suspicion for doing so, that it's not about their ego but approval of all that Trump represents.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... m-d-c-riot

Now, maybe this is optics and waiting for smoke to clear, but without access to liquid capital, Trump Inc is fucked.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-t ... 2c19ef33b4

Safest prediction imaginable: If Trump faces any kind court case—criminal or civil—regarding the putsch, he will betray those people with such speed and force, and they will be seriously embittered at being misled.
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laxman wrote:
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She is excellent in that. Exactly his type.
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Silent Majority wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 4:10pm
laxman wrote:
12 Jan 2021, 3:41pm
She is excellent in that. Exactly his type.
She has the mannerisms of the press secretary nailed very well.

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Welp. Impeached again. :rolleyes:

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This thread is a great summary of the last four years.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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