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Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:05pm
by revbob
Flex wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:01pm
revbob wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 1:39pm
I think they mostly were happy to coast during the Clinton and Obama, and now Biden administrations. That or just all looking around for someone else to step up.
Yeah, I think it's three things: 1) complacency during the good times (particularly the obama years), 2) a gerontocracy that has kept its grip on power past the expiration date, 3) thermostatic midterms that keep wiping out younger potential stars in the party.
This midterm may help take care of all three to some extent. It was a great result and Dems held a lot of ground, but still lost the house. Perfect time for a reshuffling in leadership but you have a pretty deep bench of Dems who have had to run competitive races and build networks of support. And Dems are anything but complacent right now.
Now, the Republicans actually have this problem too, it's just papered over by the fact that their base actually enjoys nominating the
most insane, unqualified people possible for top jobs.
Yeah I think that is in the job description.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:05pm
by Dr. Medulla
I know zilch about her politics or skills as a campaigner, but I wonder if Whitmer could stand out. In the most superficial ways, she checks off a lot of good boxes.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:08pm
by eumaas
I don't think Trump will win in 2024 but I also can't think of a possible Democratic candidate that I'd be particularly enthused by.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:09pm
by Flex
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:05pm
I know zilch about her politics or skills as a campaigner, but I wonder if Whitmer could stand out. In the most superficial ways, she checks off a lot of good boxes.
Yeah, I agree with this. Her wins this year and how she helped downballot races were actually much more impressive than DeSantis (who is getting fawning media attention) and as an exceedingly general rule governors are both better campaigners and administrators than senators.
I think she's a pretty normie progressive Dem, politically. Tho I'm sure folks can dredge up the good and bad.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:11pm
by Dr. Medulla
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:08pm
I don't think Trump will win in 2024 but I also can't think of a possible Democratic candidate that I'd be particularly enthused by.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:13pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:11pm
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:08pm
I don't think Trump will win in 2024 but I also can't think of a possible Democratic candidate that I'd be particularly enthused by.
Sorry, never seen that so I don't get the reference.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:14pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:05pm
I know zilch about her politics or skills as a campaigner, but I wonder if Whitmer could stand out. In the most superficial ways, she checks off a lot of good boxes.
Hoy and Kory both wondering if she would consider wearing glasses.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:24pm
by Dr. Medulla
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:11pm
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:08pm
I don't think Trump will win in 2024 but I also can't think of a possible Democratic candidate that I'd be particularly enthused by.
Sorry, never seen that so I don't get the reference.
There was talk last year(?) about McConnaughey being a Dem candidate for governor of Texas. Just another dumb "let's find a celebrity of our own!" idea from liberals.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 2:25pm
by Dr. Medulla
revbob wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:14pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:05pm
I know zilch about her politics or skills as a campaigner, but I wonder if Whitmer could stand out. In the most superficial ways, she checks off a lot of good boxes.
Hoy and Kory both wondering if she would consider wearing glasses.
Goddammit, Hoy (and Kory)!
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 6:54pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:24pm
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:11pm
eumaas wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 2:08pm
I don't think Trump will win in 2024 but I also can't think of a possible Democratic candidate that I'd be particularly enthused by.
Sorry, never seen that so I don't get the reference.
There was talk last year(?) about McConnaughey being a Dem candidate for governor of Texas. Just another dumb "let's find a celebrity of our own!" idea from liberals.
Ah gotcha. I saw some of that mentioned around the time of Uvalde too.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 6:54pm
by eumaas
I mean, fuck it, half the professional politicians are incompetent too.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 17 Nov 2022, 8:41pm
by revbob
Mimi wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 1:37pm
revbob wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 1:18pm
Mimi wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:24am
revbob wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:10am
Now if only the Dems had a strong candidate to oppose him...
I'm hoping for Pete Butti-getting jiggy with it.
Would Kamala break away from Biden to run or would that be bad business?
She's seemingly been a very quiet VP, not really carving out a space for herself. Maybe that's just how that works.
Maybe the press just doesn't like her. lol
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 17 Nov 2022, 8:52pm
by Mimi
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 17 Nov 2022, 8:54pm
by revbob
Mimi wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 8:52pm
Poor, Kamala.
She's way too classy for the Gap.
Re: The Trump observations thread
Posted: 06 Dec 2022, 12:19pm
by Dr. Medulla
Is there special significance to the colour variations in the flags?
