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San Fransisco is a wealthy yuppie shithole dystopia. If you ever want to see wealth inequality in action, there you go. Not quite at the level of Hong Kong and people sleeping in cages but headed there...

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Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.


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Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
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Sparky wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:52am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
I'm sure NYC is as bad and likely worse. I think there's no contest personally between living comfortably in the relative styx and existing in a shoebox in the city, but lots of people just don't have that choice. The life of commuter hell is only marginally more appealing, if at all.

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Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 12:42pm
Sparky wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:52am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
I'm sure NYC is as bad and likely worse. I think there's no contest personally between living comfortably in the relative styx and existing in a shoebox in the city, but lots of people just don't have that choice. The life of commuter hell is only marginally more appealing, if at all.
Hello,

When I lived in New York, Manhattan was (and still is) way too expensive. The outer boroughs used to be reasonable. I think Queens is still tolerable but parts of Brooklyn became way too hip. It's slowed somewhat from what people tell me. Then again, there's always North Jersey.

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gkbill wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:26pm
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 12:42pm
Sparky wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:52am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
I'm sure NYC is as bad and likely worse. I think there's no contest personally between living comfortably in the relative styx and existing in a shoebox in the city, but lots of people just don't have that choice. The life of commuter hell is only marginally more appealing, if at all.
Hello,

When I lived in New York, Manhattan was (and still is) way too expensive. The outer boroughs used to be reasonable. I think Queens is still tolerable but parts of Brooklyn became way too hip. It's slowed somewhat from what people tell me. Then again, there's always North Jersey.
I stay with family in Long Island City when I visit New York and it was still relatively untouched up to around 7-8 years ago but the gentrifiers had well and truly moved in by the time of my last visit so I imagine won't be long before most people are priced out of it. Some areas of Queens like Astoria and Jackson Heights are still quite nice from what I've seen.

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Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:49pm
gkbill wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:26pm
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 12:42pm
Sparky wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:52am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
I'm sure NYC is as bad and likely worse. I think there's no contest personally between living comfortably in the relative styx and existing in a shoebox in the city, but lots of people just don't have that choice. The life of commuter hell is only marginally more appealing, if at all.
Hello,

When I lived in New York, Manhattan was (and still is) way too expensive. The outer boroughs used to be reasonable. I think Queens is still tolerable but parts of Brooklyn became way too hip. It's slowed somewhat from what people tell me. Then again, there's always North Jersey.
I stay with family in Long Island City when I visit New York and it was still relatively untouched up to around 7-8 years ago but the gentrifiers had well and truly moved in by the time of my last visit so I imagine won't be long before most people are priced out of it. Some areas of Queens like Astoria and Jackson Heights are still quite nice from what I've seen.
I lived in LIC for 4 years and had a very good time there. We had left Chelsea when out one bedroom hit $3000 a month. We left LIC in 2017 when our rent was about to hit... $3000 a month. I do miss Petey Burger.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 9:29pm
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:49pm
gkbill wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:26pm
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 12:42pm
Sparky wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:52am


Wow, that's pretty bad. Our daughter opted to move out of state a couple of years ago because she was paying so much in rent it was virtually impossible to save anything. In the state she moved to they have a house with a mortgage that's probably half what rent was here.
I'm sure NYC is as bad and likely worse. I think there's no contest personally between living comfortably in the relative styx and existing in a shoebox in the city, but lots of people just don't have that choice. The life of commuter hell is only marginally more appealing, if at all.
Hello,

When I lived in New York, Manhattan was (and still is) way too expensive. The outer boroughs used to be reasonable. I think Queens is still tolerable but parts of Brooklyn became way too hip. It's slowed somewhat from what people tell me. Then again, there's always North Jersey.
I stay with family in Long Island City when I visit New York and it was still relatively untouched up to around 7-8 years ago but the gentrifiers had well and truly moved in by the time of my last visit so I imagine won't be long before most people are priced out of it. Some areas of Queens like Astoria and Jackson Heights are still quite nice from what I've seen.
I lived in LIC for 4 years and had a very good time there. We had left Chelsea when out one bedroom hit $3000 a month. We left LIC in 2017 when our rent was about to hit... $3000 a month. I do miss Petey Burger.
Spent the summer of 2017 there, my last visit to New York. Not sure of the exact figure but pretty sure my brother was paying more than that for what I'd consider merely a reasonably comfortable one bed apartment. He'd made a similar journey from the east village to LIC around 2012/13.

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Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Yeah not good. So many foreign investors buying up whole streets there. Putting rents up to stupid amounts and the prices of properties skyrocketing. I lived in Reading which is 30 miles from London and it's basically a mini London and the prices there are also nuts.
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Marky Dread wrote:
07 Sep 2021, 4:54am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Yeah not good. So many foreign investors buying up whole streets there. Putting rents up to stupid amounts and the prices of properties skyrocketing. I lived in Reading which is 30 miles from London and it's basically a mini London and the prices there are also nuts.
Vultures, pure and simple. Can't blame the market anyway, just doing what it's supposed to do. Supply and demand and all that rot.

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Marky Dread wrote:
07 Sep 2021, 4:54am
Low Down Low wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 11:37am
Fuck me, how does anyone live in London? No chance to get a mortgage, no chance to save, just dead money after dead money and no opportunity to invest in your future. I spent some very happy years of my life there, but it was affordable then. I could easily have bought a flat or appartment if I'd wanted to. Or was any way business savvy at all.

Yeah not good. So many foreign investors buying up whole streets there. Putting rents up to stupid amounts and the prices of properties skyrocketing. I lived in Reading which is 30 miles from London and it's basically a mini London and the prices there are also nuts.
This is the story in Seattle, too. A lot of places purchased and left empty.
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Ottawa's also gone insane. We've had our house for six years now and, yes, we've ploughed money into some upgrades, the value has more than doubled. Which, yay, great for us, but it's consigning huge, huge chunks of the population to renter status in an infrastructure designed for private ownership. Eventually something has to break.
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You all will be shocked to know that the cost of living and housing is very reasonable here in St. Louis!
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JennyB wrote:
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You all will be shocked to know that the cost of living and housing is very reasonable here in St. Louis!
Shit we couldn't buy a toilet for this money here.
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Marky Dread wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 9:49am
JennyB wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 9:40am
You all will be shocked to know that the cost of living and housing is very reasonable here in St. Louis!
Shit we couldn't buy a toilet for this money here.
But, on the downside...St. Louis.
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