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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:00pm
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27 Oct 2022, 11:55am
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
Zizek has a few books that stand out as coherent wholes, but a lot of his books are just theme and variation remixes of his articles that already draw on prior work. I used to hate him but have come around over the past few years, so every now and then I check out something new he's done. But he often reminds me of circumstantiality and hypergraphia from Geschwind syndrome.
Never read any of his stuff (not to my recollection), but one of those guys who pops up over and over in other stuff I've read.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:10pm
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:00pm
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:55am
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
Zizek has a few books that stand out as coherent wholes, but a lot of his books are just theme and variation remixes of his articles that already draw on prior work. I used to hate him but have come around over the past few years, so every now and then I check out something new he's done. But he often reminds me of circumstantiality and hypergraphia from Geschwind syndrome.
Never read any of his stuff (not to my recollection), but one of those guys who pops up over and over in other stuff I've read.
The film Pervert's Guide to Ideology is a pretty fun introduction to him.

His three touchstones are Hegel, Marx, and psychoanalysis (specifically Lacanian). This can make his more technical works pretty tough for a beginner, but he has a knack for illustrating hard concepts with jokes, anecdotes, readings of popular culture, and social observations. The film kind of demonstrates how much he'd benefit by having an editor to organize his material.
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:10pm
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:00pm
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:55am
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
Zizek has a few books that stand out as coherent wholes, but a lot of his books are just theme and variation remixes of his articles that already draw on prior work. I used to hate him but have come around over the past few years, so every now and then I check out something new he's done. But he often reminds me of circumstantiality and hypergraphia from Geschwind syndrome.
Never read any of his stuff (not to my recollection), but one of those guys who pops up over and over in other stuff I've read.
The film Pervert's Guide to Ideology is a pretty fun introduction to him.

His three touchstones are Hegel, Marx, and psychoanalysis (specifically Lacanian). This can make his more technical works pretty tough for a beginner, but he has a knack for illustrating hard concepts with jokes, anecdotes, readings of popular culture, and social observations. The film kind of demonstrates how much he'd benefit by having an editor to organize his material.
Not surprisingly, I suppose, it's popular cultural stuff where I've come across him. I'll hunt down the film, tho. Thanks!
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I read some of his stuff in a philosophy class in college and otherwise I mostly read him in interviews and so forth now. I sort of remember people were annoyed at him for taking some weird kinda anti-metoo positions I think but I don't really keep track of this stuff enough to know the details.

His core insight of "take hard to understand concepts and make them relatable with pop culture" still seems like a winner to me.
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27 Oct 2022, 1:28pm
His core insight of "take hard to understand concepts and make them relatable with pop culture" still seems like a winner to me.
One of the things I've tried to impress upon students in my popular culture class is that one of the reasons it's important to treat it seriously (meaning more than just a dumb distraction) is that popular culture is the language we all speak now. We draw from all manner of popular cultural texts to perceive and express our understanding of the world. As one cultural studies scholar put it, "This ain't no sideshow."
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Flex wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 1:28pm
I read some of his stuff in a philosophy class in college and otherwise I mostly read him in interviews and so forth now. I sort of remember people were annoyed at him for taking some weird kinda anti-metoo positions I think but I don't really keep track of this stuff enough to know the details.

His core insight of "take hard to understand concepts and make them relatable with pop culture" still seems like a winner to me.
Zizek's gotten in trouble a bunch of times. I think it stems from his Hegelian stance where he feels driven to find the contradiction in something. Sometimes I think he's on the money, other times not so much.
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the wokeness of capital has been overstated
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... epublicans
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 1:45pm
Flex wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 1:28pm
I read some of his stuff in a philosophy class in college and otherwise I mostly read him in interviews and so forth now. I sort of remember people were annoyed at him for taking some weird kinda anti-metoo positions I think but I don't really keep track of this stuff enough to know the details.

His core insight of "take hard to understand concepts and make them relatable with pop culture" still seems like a winner to me.
Zizek's gotten in trouble a bunch of times. I think it stems from his Hegelian stance where he feels driven to find the contradiction in something. Sometimes I think he's on the money, other times not so much.
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Something about the last stage capitalism…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6 ... gn=KARANGA
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Stefano1972 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:36pm
Something about the last stage capitalism…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6 ... gn=KARANGA
An error in their system? What an unbelievable fucking shambles.
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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:44pm
Stefano1972 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:36pm
Something about the last stage capitalism…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6 ... gn=KARANGA
An error in their system? What an unbelievable fucking shambles.
when profit is accompanied by ignorance... really shameful
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Stefano1972 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 7:22pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:44pm
Stefano1972 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:36pm
Something about the last stage capitalism…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6 ... gn=KARANGA
An error in their system? What an unbelievable fucking shambles.
when profit is accompanied by ignorance... really shameful
Exactly my friend.
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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:44pm
Stefano1972 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 5:36pm
Something about the last stage capitalism…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6 ... gn=KARANGA
An error in their system? What an unbelievable fucking shambles.
They must have forgotten to apply the 'remove Nazi sympathizer' patch. Rookie mistake.
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"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2022, 8:44am
what fuckery is that? :scared:

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