Late stage capitalism
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Re: Late stage capitalism
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
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Re: Late stage capitalism
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 5:52amThere's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
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Re: Late stage capitalism
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:34amAnd if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 5:52amThere's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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Re: Late stage capitalism
As Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:53amAs Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:34amAnd if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 5:52amThere's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
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This comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:09amAs Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:53amAs Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:34amAnd if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 5:52amThere's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
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Re: Late stage capitalism
Guy with enormous piles of gold behind him emptying his pockets and saying, "Where will we find the money???"Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:28amThis comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:09amAs Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:53amAs Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:34amAnd if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 5:52amThere's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Re: Late stage capitalism
eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:33amGuy with enormous piles of gold behind him emptying his pockets and saying, "Where will we find the money???"Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:28amThis comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 7:09amAs Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:53amAs Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 6:34am
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.

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Re: Late stage capitalism
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
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Re: Late stage capitalism
Fisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:19amThat comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
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In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:
Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Thanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:23amFisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:19amThat comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city
In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
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Make sure to tell the class you figured it out all yourself though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:34amThanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:23amFisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:19amThat comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city
In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.

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If that's the case, I'll credit myself with the observation. "And if you come across that line in a book, kids, they got it from me!"Flex wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:40amMake sure to tell the class you figured it out all yourself though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:34amThanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.eumaas wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:23amFisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 11:19amThat comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city
In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.![]()
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Re: Late stage capitalism
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
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Re: Late stage capitalism
Zizek has a few books that stand out as coherent wholes, but a lot of his books are just theme and variation remixes of his articles that already draw on prior work. I used to hate him but have come around over the past few years, so every now and then I check out something new he's done. But he often reminds me of circumstantiality and hypergraphia from Geschwind syndrome.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 12:00pmWhen I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy