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Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 8:17pm
by Low Down Low
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 6:53pm
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 6:43pm
Beginning to wonder if she isn’t smarter than we give her credit for.
I don't think anyone involved in this clusterfuck is going to be confidently filling out a Mensa application.
Politics never been that much of a magnet for the best and brightest, though, has it? I was implying a very low bar.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 8:31pm
by Dr. Medulla
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 8:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 6:53pm
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 6:43pm
Beginning to wonder if she isn’t smarter than we give her credit for.
I don't think anyone involved in this clusterfuck is going to be confidently filling out a Mensa application.
Politics never been that much of a magnet for the best and brightest, though, has it? I was implying a very low bar.
Two very smart guys wbo come to mind who made it to the big chair are Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Which, mind you, didn't stop them from doing abhorrent things. But as a rule, yeah, it doesn't seem like we're awash with smart and moral people. Hard not to think that the system does its best to bar those people, or corrupt and make them stupid if they ascend.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 8:54pm
by Low Down Low
Am I right in thinking you tend to get people moving into high office in the US after being successful in other careers, as opposed to this side of the world where the trend seems more towards the careerist politician like the current pm who is more likely than not to have been publicly schooled and been active in his/her party’s youth wing?

Meanwhile, back in my own native land people are beginning to think that their oft derided public representatives are maybe not as bad as often made out.


Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 9:17pm
by Flex
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 8:17pm
Politics never been that much of a magnet for the best and brightest, though, has it?
True.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
by Dr. Medulla
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 8:54pm
Am I right in thinking you tend to get people moving into high office in the US after being successful in other careers, as opposed to this side of the world where the trend seems more towards the careerist politician like the current pm who is more likely than not to have been publicly schooled and been active in his/her party’s youth wing?
Cabinet secretaries are often drawn from the private sector, but presidents normally have a track record, often as governor of a state. Trump is the first president without governent experience since Eisenhower. Before that, it might be Grant in 1868.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 4:34am
by Low Down Low
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Mar 2019, 8:54pm
Am I right in thinking you tend to get people moving into high office in the US after being successful in other careers, as opposed to this side of the world where the trend seems more towards the careerist politician like the current pm who is more likely than not to have been publicly schooled and been active in his/her party’s youth wing?
Cabinet secretaries are often drawn from the private sector, but presidents normally have a track record, often as governor of a state. Trump is the first president without governent experience since Eisenhower. Before that, it might be Grant in 1868.
Appointing people on the basis of their knowledge and expertise has just always seemed a fundamentally sound idea to me, though trump does seem to take an almost perverse satisfaction in subverting the process. Where i come from cabinet positions get filled more often than not on the basis of who supported whom in the last leadership heave and you end up, say, with a finance minister who has no track record in business or a culture minister who has never read a book in his or her life.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 10:09am
by Low Down Low

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 10:15am
by Dr. Medulla
Low Down Low wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:09am
:lol: It is a lemonade from lemons thing, but there is value in seeing so many self-described serious and competent leaders exposing themselves as total boobs. In politics, it's good to be loved and feared, but never to be laughed at.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 10:18am
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:15am
Low Down Low wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:09am
:lol: It is a lemonade from lemons thing, but there is value in seeing so many self-described serious and competent leaders exposing themselves as total boobs. In politics, it's good to be loved and feared, but never to be laughed at.
Why we ever put any faith in these assholes is beyond all rational thinking.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 3:46pm
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:18am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:15am
Low Down Low wrote:
28 Mar 2019, 10:09am
:lol: It is a lemonade from lemons thing, but there is value in seeing so many self-described serious and competent leaders exposing themselves as total boobs. In politics, it's good to be loved and feared, but never to be laughed at.
Why we ever put any faith in these assholes is beyond all rational thinking.
The democratic parliament system works when politicians are some of the smartest minds in the country however nowadays that is far from reality. No one with half a brain would become an MP and as someone pointed out they are all career politicians who wouldn’t get a job making tea in a real world corporate.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 8:58am
by Dr. Medulla
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -tells-mps

This is about principle and solemn duty and respect, people! It's like a bunch of grifters getting together and trying to figure out how to walk away with each other's cash.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 10:49am
by Dr. Medulla
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Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 29 Mar 2019, 12:31pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Mar 2019, 10:49am
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Yep just about all she is now worth is peanuts.

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 01 Apr 2019, 6:03pm
by Flex
gjge

Re: Brexit what Brexit!

Posted: 01 Apr 2019, 6:26pm
by Dr. Medulla
It's kinda funny/weird that given no agreement on a way forward, the status quo isn't the default result.