The coming tide.
- BostonBeaneater
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The coming tide.
I don’t know if people like me can beat these fascists. I do pledge to splay as many of them as I can. I hope there is a decent and small group of humans who survive all this and does something to honor us. At the same time, aren’t we better off forgotten?
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Re: The coming tide.
It’s time to put bat on brain and hurt the people who hurt us all. I wanna chop up the bastards into chum.
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Re: The coming tide.
You alright?
- BostonBeaneater
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Re: The coming tide.
Yeah, I am just ready to take it to these goose stepping goons.
Re: The coming tide.
As I've said here before, and on Facebook, punching a fascist is morally okay, because it's an act of self-defense due to their oft-stated philosophy to kill large portions of humankind.
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Re: The coming tide.
You and me both, my friend. I'd love to know wtf goes wrong in the development of a fascist psychopath? What's the draw? I want to say they're inherently weak individuals who grasp at violence in order to feel strong because it helps them keep a lid on the fact that deep down they know they're a waste of flesh.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 9:42amYeah, I am just ready to take it to these goose stepping goons.
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Re: The coming tide.
You've more or less recreated Arthur Schlesinger Jr's argument from the late 1940s for why some people adopt totalitarian ideologies—i.e., they're psychologically weak. Modernity offers people the freedom to be individuals and chart their own path, he argued, but the weak-willed can't handle it and choose fascism, Nazism, or communism because it has a ready-made worldview and provides security in the mass. Which is an indirect way for Schlesinger to pat himself and his fellow liberals on the back for being tough men. Sure, psychology plays a role in these things, but I'd say brutal capitalism, where community and fellowship is reduced to market value and deals, where your value as a human being is abstracted in favour of how much profit you can make for your boss and how much you spend to keep the machinery rolling—that guts people's sense of self-worth more. This isn't me feeling sorry for these fuckheads—they made the choice of who to blame and went with people often in more marginalized circumstances than their own, and they chose to adopt violence against other human beings as their preferred method—but it's a mistake to simply dismiss the cause as mental weakness. We reduce the number of fascists and potential fascists in our midst by altering the social environment that produces that anger.WestwayKid wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 12:28pmI'd love to know wtf goes wrong in the development of a fascist psychopath? What's the draw? I want to say they're inherently weak individuals who grasp at violence in order to feel strong because it helps them keep a lid on the fact that deep down they know they're a waste of flesh.
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Re: The coming tide.
A lot of these nazis slid into it out of a brain dead online ironic whining entitlement.
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Re: The coming tide.
I had never thought about it in that way, but what you write makes a ton of sense!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 1:20pmYou've more or less recreated Arthur Schlesinger Jr's argument from the late 1940s for why some people adopt totalitarian ideologies—i.e., they're psychologically weak. Modernity offers people the freedom to be individuals and chart their own path, he argued, but the weak-willed can't handle it and choose fascism, Nazism, or communism because it has a ready-made worldview and provides security in the mass. Which is an indirect way for Schlesinger to pat himself and his fellow liberals on the back for being tough men. Sure, psychology plays a role in these things, but I'd say brutal capitalism, where community and fellowship is reduced to market value and deals, where your value as a human being is abstracted in favour of how much profit you can make for your boss and how much you spend to keep the machinery rolling—that guts people's sense of self-worth more. This isn't me feeling sorry for these fuckheads—they made the choice of who to blame and went with people often in more marginalized circumstances than their own, and they chose to adopt violence against other human beings as their preferred method—but it's a mistake to simply dismiss the cause as mental weakness. We reduce the number of fascists and potential fascists in our midst by altering the social environment that produces that anger.WestwayKid wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 12:28pmI'd love to know wtf goes wrong in the development of a fascist psychopath? What's the draw? I want to say they're inherently weak individuals who grasp at violence in order to feel strong because it helps them keep a lid on the fact that deep down they know they're a waste of flesh.
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Re: The coming tide.
Rule of thumb: When figuring out problems involving groups of people, start with social causes, not individual.WestwayKid wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 1:47pmI had never thought about it in that way, but what you write makes a ton of sense!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 1:20pmYou've more or less recreated Arthur Schlesinger Jr's argument from the late 1940s for why some people adopt totalitarian ideologies—i.e., they're psychologically weak. Modernity offers people the freedom to be individuals and chart their own path, he argued, but the weak-willed can't handle it and choose fascism, Nazism, or communism because it has a ready-made worldview and provides security in the mass. Which is an indirect way for Schlesinger to pat himself and his fellow liberals on the back for being tough men. Sure, psychology plays a role in these things, but I'd say brutal capitalism, where community and fellowship is reduced to market value and deals, where your value as a human being is abstracted in favour of how much profit you can make for your boss and how much you spend to keep the machinery rolling—that guts people's sense of self-worth more. This isn't me feeling sorry for these fuckheads—they made the choice of who to blame and went with people often in more marginalized circumstances than their own, and they chose to adopt violence against other human beings as their preferred method—but it's a mistake to simply dismiss the cause as mental weakness. We reduce the number of fascists and potential fascists in our midst by altering the social environment that produces that anger.WestwayKid wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 12:28pmI'd love to know wtf goes wrong in the development of a fascist psychopath? What's the draw? I want to say they're inherently weak individuals who grasp at violence in order to feel strong because it helps them keep a lid on the fact that deep down they know they're a waste of flesh.
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