When the Boomers Die

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When the Boomers Die

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What luxury/collectors items will crash in value the most?

I think anything Harley-Davidson will be rendered damn near worthless. In fact, I could see the entire mid-level muscle car and hot rod market tumble to the point where you could get an old Mustang for like $800.

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BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 11:22pm
What luxury/collectors items will crash in value the most?

I think anything Harley-Davidson will be rendered damn near worthless. In fact, I could see the entire mid-level muscle car and hot rod market tumble to the point where you could get an old Mustang for like $800.

Show of hands, can you work a manual transmission?
Not very well, but I’ll learn if I can get a Mach II for under $1000.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 11:22pm
What luxury/collectors items will crash in value the most?

I think anything Harley-Davidson will be rendered damn near worthless. In fact, I could see the entire mid-level muscle car and hot rod market tumble to the point where you could get an old Mustang for like $800.

Show of hands, can you work a manual transmission?
Not that I drive anymore, but yup.* Our car right now is a standard. We're looking to replace it right away and the Boss wants to get another standard because (a) she likes the control and (b) it's excellent theft deterrence.

* I taught the Boss how to drive a stick, or at least she learned in spite of me. She asked when to shift and I said, "You just know." Which is really unhelpful for someone starting out, but she understands what I meant now.
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In theory I know how to drive a stick. In practice, not so much.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 11:22pm
What luxury/collectors items will crash in value the most?

I think anything Harley-Davidson will be rendered damn near worthless. In fact, I could see the entire mid-level muscle car and hot rod market tumble to the point where you could get an old Mustang for like $800.

Show of hands, can you work a manual transmission?
Uh, yeah. I prefer it, although living near a city like DC and having to drive through that crap to get home, I'm thinking of going automatic.

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I had a manual for awhile, and I assume I could get back into it fairly easily. As someone who gets no pleasure or enjoyment whatsoever from driving and isn't a gearhead guy at all, I was happy to return to an automatic with my next vehicle. I really, truly do not understand the pleasure or value people get in driving stick (or driving in general, absolutely my most hated daily activity).
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12 Dec 2019, 11:53am
I had a manual for awhile, and I assume I could get back into it fairly easily. As someone who gets no pleasure or enjoyment whatsoever from driving and isn't a gearhead guy at all, I was happy to return to an automatic with my next vehicle. I really, truly do not understand the pleasure or value people get in driving stick (or driving in general, absolutely my most hated daily activity).
No longer having a driver's license can be an inconvenience, but I don't miss driving at all. In a way, relying on someone else to do the driving has been good for me to let go of some of my lack-of-control anxieties. But, yeah, the idea of driving and pleasure are antithetical concepts to me.
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My main car has been manual for the 20 years I've been driving. My commute is so shitty though, that I'm happy the new car is automatic.

I don't really give a shit if people don't know how to drive stick. This whole meme is stupid:
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Flex wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 11:53am
I had a manual for awhile, and I assume I could get back into it fairly easily. As someone who gets no pleasure or enjoyment whatsoever from driving and isn't a gearhead guy at all, I was happy to return to an automatic with my next vehicle. I really, truly do not understand the pleasure or value people get in driving stick (or driving in general, absolutely my most hated daily activity).
I think it would be fun if 1) I had a car that had some muscle and 2) it wasn't something I had to do every single day.
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My car is a stick but I don't have to drive daily or in commute traffic. I like it because I feel in tune with the car and driving becomes a meditative exercise. The stick turns my otherwise boring 4 cylinder car into a fun little racer.

My purpose of this thread was to discuss the things that Boomers value so much that will devalue very quickly in their absence. Like, who is going to spend big money on a Micky Mantle baseball card once there is no one left who remembers him? I think of the huge houses they built as well. Who's going to be looking for 5000 square foot houses that were cheaply built in the 90s?
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WestwayKid wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 12:23pm
Flex wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 11:53am
I had a manual for awhile, and I assume I could get back into it fairly easily. As someone who gets no pleasure or enjoyment whatsoever from driving and isn't a gearhead guy at all, I was happy to return to an automatic with my next vehicle. I really, truly do not understand the pleasure or value people get in driving stick (or driving in general, absolutely my most hated daily activity).
I think it would be fun if 1) I had a car that had some muscle and 2) it wasn't something I had to do every single day.
Our car goes to the market a few miles away once or twice a week or out into the countryside on 150 mile rides to hiking trails or seaside towns. We have a 2012 Ford Focus 5-Speed. It's fast off the jump and gets 30 miles a gallon.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
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My purpose of this thread was to discuss the things that Boomers value so much that will devalue very quickly in their absence. Like, who is going to spend big money on a Micky Mantle baseball card once there is no one left who remembers him? I think of the huge houses they built as well. Who's going to be looking for 5000 square foot houses that were cheaply built in the 90s?
I think it's more a case that climate change will dictate that we'll be moving from a culture of abundance/luxury/wastefulness back to the one of scarcity that has dominated human existence. So, yeah, all that showy display of material wealth that Boomers as a generation all but perfected will be seen as an ugly aberration.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 12:24pm
My car is a stick but I don't have to drive daily or in commute traffic. I like it because I feel in tune with the car and driving becomes a meditative exercise. The stick turns my otherwise boring 4 cylinder car into a fun little racer.

My purpose of this thread was to discuss the things that Boomers value so much that will devalue very quickly in their absence. Like, who is going to spend big money on a Micky Mantle baseball card once there is no one left who remembers him? I think of the huge houses they built as well. Who's going to be looking for 5000 square foot houses that were cheaply built in the 90s?
Yeah, I think the bolded is just something I never felt. I was too worried about the usually snowy road conditions, masses of tourist drivers, etc. to be able to relax and enjoy anything. I find driving deeply, constantly stressful.

I agree if it was a "purely for pleasure" kind of thing and I had a more fun car, it might, well, be more fun. But I'd rather have both hands free for the ice on the roads and folks who are here on vacation and don't know how roundabouts work and whatnot.

Anyways, I think that the reason some of this stuff is so expensive is because boomers have captured so much wealth. So they can still spend stupid money on mickey mantle cards and such. Will people still want those things when boomers are dead? Sure, to some extent, but not at the prices boomers can pay.
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I think the McMansion will definitely devalue once the Boomers die. I have to imagine despite their "grand" outward appearances, many of these were built quick and cheap and they're just too darned big.
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Golf courses? I have to think many of them go under once the Boomers are too old or too dead to keep playing.
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