A Long Hot Summer begins (a dumpster fire chat)

[JennyB]

Thanks, Doc. I wholeheartedly agree that getting rid of unqualified immunity would be a big step in the right direction.

[Dr. Medulla]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

[JennyB]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

Thank you - I will order that today.

[Dr. Medulla]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

Thank you - I will order that today.

If you do eBooks, I can help a sister out. I actually paid for my copy!

[JennyB]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

Thank you - I will order that today.

If you do eBooks, I can help a sister out. I actually paid for my copy!

Why, I would never! Hand it over, Doc.

[Dr. Medulla]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

Thank you - I will order that today.

If you do eBooks, I can help a sister out. I actually paid for my copy!

Why, I would never! Hand it over, Doc.

Actually, not my link: https://b-ok.cc/dl/2215277/c51bb1

[JennyB]

BTW, highly recommend Radley Balko's Rise of the Warrior Cop. Superb examination of how, incrementally, American police have gone from keepers of civil order (more or less) to paramilitary goons with free rein to brutalize.

Thank you - I will order that today.

If you do eBooks, I can help a sister out. I actually paid for my copy!

Why, I would never! Hand it over, Doc.

Actually, not my link: https://b-ok.cc/dl/2215277/c51bb1

Thank you!

[101Walterton]

Minnesota Attorney General Kieth Ellison will take over the criminal investigation. Damn good call from Gov. Walz. I would expect Chauvin to be up-charged and the other three cops to be formally charged with something.

Yes, this is a great move, and one demanded by George Floyd's family and the demonstrators.

I also hope this means that the other three will be charged, too. I had only very slim hopes that Freeman would also charge them, but it's not a sure thing that Ellison will, although the odds are a little better.

I'm sure the local GOP assholes will find something horrifying to say about this, whatever Ellison does.

I wonder if the tweet he sent out (see page 1 of this thread) will come back to haunt him.

When Ellison briefly spoke last night, he made a point to say that under Minnesota law, it's really tough to convict an officer.

But fuck, if he's not sent to prison, the blood that will spill in the streets here and elsewhere will be like nothing that's ever been seen before in this country.

I’ve read this elsewhere but don’t understand.
Does this mean the ‘assault’ laws in Minnesota don’t apply to every individual?
I. E . Some people (cops) are outside of the law.
Or are their statutory defences for Police.
Or tough to convict because of the jury system. I’d have thought the people who would make up the jury are already speaking.

[BostonBeaneater]

The US Military might shoot its own people in the streets tonight.

[muppet hi fi]

The US Military might shoot its own people in the streets tonight.

Probably not unless fired on. These aren't cops, though many have no doubt been on deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan. Which, ya know, can color one's view of the situation at hand.

Big time advice for peaceful demonstrators and protesters (and yes, arsonists, looters and provocateurs of any persuasion):

Don't shoot at cops and especially the military. This is not romantic. Only extreme bad can come from it. For yourselves and anyone you hope to be representing or helping.

[BostonBeaneater]

The US Military might shoot its own people in the streets tonight.

Probably not unless fired on. These aren't cops, though many have no doubt been on deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan. Which, ya know, can color one's view of the situation at hand.

Big time advice for peaceful demonstrators and protesters (and yes, arsonists, looters and provocateurs of any persuasion):

Don't shoot at cops and especially the military. This is not romantic. Only extreme bad can come from it. For yourselves and anyone you hope to be representing or helping.

The President wants blood in the streets and his bootlickers are ready do it for him.

[muppet hi fi]

The US Military might shoot its own people in the streets tonight.

Probably not unless fired on. These aren't cops, though many have no doubt been on deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan. Which, ya know, can color one's view of the situation at hand.

Big time advice for peaceful demonstrators and protesters (and yes, arsonists, looters and provocateurs of any persuasion):

Don't shoot at cops and especially the military. This is not romantic. Only extreme bad can come from it. For yourselves and anyone you hope to be representing or helping.

The President wants blood in the streets and his bootlickers are ready do it for him.

Beanie - do you know anyone in the US Military - Guard, Reserves or active duty? Or even veterans? I know quite a few. I'm related to a couple. To a man/woman, they all despise Trump, and mostly (from what I've gleaned) are liberals/Democrats or left-leaning libertarians.

[muppet hi fi]

And anyway, here in the Twin Cities the Guard presence is being reduced and the curfew reduced by two hours dusk and dawn. Hope Gov. Walz and the mayors are playing their cards right, cuz it's fucking almost 90 degrees and supposed to be hotter tomorrow.

[BostonBeaneater]

Beanie - do you know anyone in the US Military - Guard, Reserves or active duty? Or even veterans? I know quite a few. I'm related to a couple. To a man/woman, they all despise Trump, and mostly (from what I've gleaned) are liberals/Democrats or left-leaning libertarians.

I do. Some were friends and others are family. I'd say 80% are in the cult and have no problem seeing the police and military brutalize American people in the streets.

[muppet hi fi]

Beanie - do you know anyone in the US Military - Guard, Reserves or active duty? Or even veterans? I know quite a few. I'm related to a couple. To a man/woman, they all despise Trump, and mostly (from what I've gleaned) are liberals/Democrats or left-leaning libertarians.

I do. Some were friends and others are family. I'd say 80% are in the cult and have no problem seeing the police and military brutalize American people in the streets.

Yeah? These peeps all fellow Massholes?

Ya know, man - with your sweeping statement "The US Military might shoot it's own people in the streets tonight" (with no context or links or any other commentary), sounds like one of Trumps tweets. Cause fear with no back story. Dude, are you getting off on this shit?