A Long Hot Summer begins (a dumpster fire chat)

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matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:42pm
JennyB wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 2:21pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 2:18pm
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Because of course they'd be invited to speak. Very much the poster monsters of the American right.
$1.15 million gets you a mansion in STL? That can't get you a 3/2 around here.
Yep. And those are the genuine mansions. You can get a McMansion for even cheaper. There are more expensive areas though.
What defines a mansion ( or McMansion)?
Wikipedia's definition of McMansion seems accurate: McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling. Real mansions tend to be older, grander, with expensive/fine details. McMansions are very large, came in vogue in the 80's/90's (that's my understanding) and tend to be much more cheaply produced. They are also a lot more affordable than a real mansion. So people who want massive homes without the cost of an early 20th century Victorian or something have that option.
Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?

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101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:50pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:42pm
JennyB wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 2:21pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 2:18pm


$1.15 million gets you a mansion in STL? That can't get you a 3/2 around here.
Yep. And those are the genuine mansions. You can get a McMansion for even cheaper. There are more expensive areas though.
What defines a mansion ( or McMansion)?
Wikipedia's definition of McMansion seems accurate: McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling. Real mansions tend to be older, grander, with expensive/fine details. McMansions are very large, came in vogue in the 80's/90's (that's my understanding) and tend to be much more cheaply produced. They are also a lot more affordable than a real mansion. So people who want massive homes without the cost of an early 20th century Victorian or something have that option.
Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?
Square footage? Not sure, but scanning some McMansion Hell write ups, some of them are a lot larger than I had thought. I lived in a McMansion in northern Virginia and it was big, but a lot of McMansions like Jenny posted are comparable to actual mansions.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:56pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:50pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:42pm
JennyB wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 2:21pm


Yep. And those are the genuine mansions. You can get a McMansion for even cheaper. There are more expensive areas though.
What defines a mansion ( or McMansion)?
Wikipedia's definition of McMansion seems accurate: McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling. Real mansions tend to be older, grander, with expensive/fine details. McMansions are very large, came in vogue in the 80's/90's (that's my understanding) and tend to be much more cheaply produced. They are also a lot more affordable than a real mansion. So people who want massive homes without the cost of an early 20th century Victorian or something have that option.
Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?
Square footage? Not sure, but scanning some McMansion Hell write ups, some of them are a lot larger than I had thought. I lived in a McMansion in northern Virginia and it was big, but a lot of McMansions like Jenny posted are comparable to actual mansions.
I just wondered like how many bedrooms, living areas, pool? Etc..

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101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 4:22pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:56pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:50pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:42pm


What defines a mansion ( or McMansion)?
Wikipedia's definition of McMansion seems accurate: McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling. Real mansions tend to be older, grander, with expensive/fine details. McMansions are very large, came in vogue in the 80's/90's (that's my understanding) and tend to be much more cheaply produced. They are also a lot more affordable than a real mansion. So people who want massive homes without the cost of an early 20th century Victorian or something have that option.
Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?
Square footage? Not sure, but scanning some McMansion Hell write ups, some of them are a lot larger than I had thought. I lived in a McMansion in northern Virginia and it was big, but a lot of McMansions like Jenny posted are comparable to actual mansions.
I just wondered like how many bedrooms, living areas, pool? Etc..
I use McDuck Manor as the gold standard.
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Kory wrote:
19 Aug 2020, 1:25pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 4:22pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:56pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:50pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:49pm

Wikipedia's definition of McMansion seems accurate: McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling. Real mansions tend to be older, grander, with expensive/fine details. McMansions are very large, came in vogue in the 80's/90's (that's my understanding) and tend to be much more cheaply produced. They are also a lot more affordable than a real mansion. So people who want massive homes without the cost of an early 20th century Victorian or something have that option.
Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?
Square footage? Not sure, but scanning some McMansion Hell write ups, some of them are a lot larger than I had thought. I lived in a McMansion in northern Virginia and it was big, but a lot of McMansions like Jenny posted are comparable to actual mansions.
I just wondered like how many bedrooms, living areas, pool? Etc..
I use McDuck Manor as the gold standard.
A McMansion is made of balsa wood and will blow away in a storm. Does the neighborhood have a dozen versions of the same cheap house? It's a Mc Mansion.

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I read this described as gentrification architecture.

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BostonBeaneater wrote:
19 Aug 2020, 1:57pm
I read this described as gentrification architecture.

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That seems right. All the luxury condos going up in SF/Oakland are all uninspired boxes. Lots of concrete and glass.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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BostonBeaneater wrote:
19 Aug 2020, 1:54pm
Does the neighborhood have a dozen versions of the same cheap house? It's a Mc Mansion.
That's the key distinction to me. A mansion is drawn from a unique set of architectural plans. There's thought put into it based on the owner's interests. A McMansion is built from a set of plans that have been used over and over in any number of cities. A McMansion is any basic suburban home except bigger and gaudier.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
19 Aug 2020, 1:54pm
Kory wrote:
19 Aug 2020, 1:25pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 4:22pm
matedog wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:56pm
101Walterton wrote:
18 Aug 2020, 3:50pm


Thanks Matey, and how big is a mansion?
Square footage? Not sure, but scanning some McMansion Hell write ups, some of them are a lot larger than I had thought. I lived in a McMansion in northern Virginia and it was big, but a lot of McMansions like Jenny posted are comparable to actual mansions.
I just wondered like how many bedrooms, living areas, pool? Etc..
I use McDuck Manor as the gold standard.
A McMansion is made of balsa wood and will blow away in a storm. Does the neighborhood have a dozen versions of the same cheap house? It's a Mc Mansion.

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Gotcha thanks.

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Louisville will burn tonight.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
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Louisville will burn tonight.

Oh boy.

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Mimi wrote:
23 Sep 2020, 4:27pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
23 Sep 2020, 3:42pm
Louisville will burn tonight.

Oh boy.
Trending on Twitter. What a shitshow this country is.
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